Quoting: Guest

Quoting: GuestOn the long run, companies will recognize Linux more as a real market share even though they the companies dont have to do anything in terms of technical development because of Wine.

Because of this Linux market share recognition, chances are that they will want to support natively Linux so they make sure that their games run well on Linux also (not just with the Wine compatibility layer).

Why would they want to do that? If Steam/Wine/whatever takes care of it non-natively, they will never have do any better. What possible motive will there be to do Linux-native when all the work is being done by someone else??

You're missing a point:

That is a compability layer and because of that it will have caveats and it is not entirely possible to have great compability.

Once the user base is there and there is an highly acclaimed upcoming AAA that won't work with Proton ; user base will do the pressure.

Because they have already docked into Linux shores and loved it , nuked Windows ; they won't do that installing Windows again. They will start to pressure then when it is announced.

So either that company will do a native Linux port or making sure that game works great with Proton.

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Quoting: MVinhasDo I need to install DXVK? Because I cannot install any Windows game despite having the Steam Beta Client.

No , you don't have to. Go to Steam Settings-Steam Play.

Then restart client.

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Quoting: GuestI think this is certainly going to make it very hard for Feral and VP to continue to offer their service on the Linux platform.

Ultimately for Linux gamers, this may be the best thing though.

Nah , dedicated Linux users were mostly buying Linux compatible games anyway and they know the difference of SteamPlay titles vs Feral , VP backed titles.

This move is mostly for newcomers. They wouldn't pay to you anyway if they keep staying on Windows. These are your possible customers.

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Quoting: Alm888

Quoting: LeopardIt is already opposite in my country.

Not so lucky here [External Link].
The Title image says it all. :dizzy: And regarding the text itself… Vulkan always at the bottom of the list (sometimes in the brackets, like an afterthought), sometimes omitted and generally considered "just another DirectX" without any comparison to D3D 12.
Needless to say, there are only 2 Vulkan games in the benchmarks "Ashes of the Singularity" (which is "meh" in terms of Vulkan support) and "DOOM" (no, DOOM's big performance boost is not attributed solely to Vulkan, DrectX shares the "victory" there).
And this is recent. Two years ago it was much worse (like Vulkan being mentioned only once and the rest of the article being only about DirectX 12).

Quoting: LeopardMany emulators also introduced them Vulkan.

Emulators being emulators are not entirely legal and no self-respecting news site will ever write about them.
But, on the positive side of things, emulator developers are very rationale and pragmatic ones so, being unaffected by PR and marketing BS, they chose the best solution and not the most hyped one. It seems they are dropping DirectX for good [External Link].

Quoting: LeopardAlso Cemu emulator ( Windows only ) is looking into Vulkan possibility. Right now it is on OGL and many AMD users just learned about Mesa OGL because of that.

Mesa for Windows™? Didn't know about that. From my impression, most of the (Windows™) gamers don't know even about OpenGL. Like when the "Broken Sword 5" came out most of them stupidly tried to update DirectX when the game didn't launch or had no sound (BS5 uses OpenGL+OpenAL and at that time by default Windows™ had WHQL-certified drivers installed which notoriously don't include OpenGL support). The developers had a hard time explaining gamers they should install fresh drivers from HW supplier (Nvidia, AMD, Intel) and not from "Windows Update Center" and OpenAL to boot.

Hmm , so Russian are pretty uniterested then.

https://www.donanimhaber.com/ekran-karti/haberleri/F1-2017-oyunu-Linuxa-geliyor.htm [External Link]

https://www.donanimhaber.com/ekran-karti/haberleri/AMD-RX-480-ile-DOOM-Vulkan-testi-28e-varan-performans-artisi.htm [External Link]

About Cemu:

No actually. Many people using Cemu for Zelda BOTW and using an AMD cards on Windows , created Linux partitions to run Cemu into Wine with Mesa OGL drivers. AMD Windows OGL drivers are such a disaster.

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Quoting: Alm888

Quoting: ColomboVulcan(sic) is already well-developed product with a strong corporate backing (Valve) that seems to be more adopted than DX12. The only way Microsoft might fight this is making proprietary extension for Vulcan(sic).

We can only hope Vulkan prevails it the end but so far I'm not convinced this already happened. I've been monitoring news (in my country) regarding DX12 vs. Vulkan on the "General Purpose" gaming news sites (i.e. Windows™-centric) and so far an average Joe constantly hears about DirectX™ 12 while there is almost no news regarding Vulkan. The Vulkan news I've found, ironically, were panic-inducing ones (regarding Nvidia's new ray-racing features only working in DirectX™ and not in Vulkan).

The biggest shot in the foot Microsoft® made was "DirectX™ 12 Windows™ 10 lock-in". :D

It is already opposite in my country.

1-) Doom 2016 was a huge successful Vulkan marketing when it got update for Vulkan. Because that literally blown minds of AMD users , thanks to performance benefits.

2-) Wolfenstein 2 also received good attention too. People got introduced " Vulkan exclusive " term.

3-) Many emulators also introduced them Vulkan. RPCS3 , PPSSPP , Dolphin were notable ones. Also Cemu emulator ( Windows only ) is looking into Vulkan possibility. Right now it is on OGL and many AMD users just learned about Mesa OGL because of that.

4-) Probably Doom Eternal will be another Vulkan exclusive.

5-) Pretty sure CS GO will be updated to Vulkan. And other incoming Valve games too.

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Quoting: jakobvonguntenInstalled and it's working. This will be the end of Lutris?

No but probably Lutris will be a GOG , Origin , Battle.net centric place now.

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Quoting: chancho_zombie

Quoting: Whitewolfe80

Quoting: chancho_zombiehi I need some help, I can't find the option to install Tropico 4 my beta client is up to date.

where are the steam play options? can't find them.

See page 5 screenshots of what you need to check

thanks for the answer, I don't have that option, maybe they have not rolled out the latest beta in my location.

A new update just rolled out.

This update was re-released at 4PM PST to include a crash fix in the settings UI, and Steam Play tools not appearing for some users.

A second update has been released containing the same changes listed below.

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Quoting: musojon74I've just installed wine after purging my old copy, and following the instructions to put the right repo on and install wine stable. And I now am the proud owner of - Wine 3.02. Also had to fix the steam can't download bug too. Am I missing something? What's the recommended repo these days?

Staging or devel.

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Quoting: sonic

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: evergreenI mean a lutris installer to play the game on wine, in the hope the experimental linux port will come soon with full support, so we won’t need to play this game through wine.

Arma3 port is fully functional , just click install from your Steam library on Linux client.

It does not show Mac&Linux on store page because port usually lags behind a version which makes cross platform play against Windows uncompatible.

Which that is sufficient to say " experimental " from Bohemia's perspective.

Fully functional, except rotorlib, crashes every 30 minutes and incompatibility with Windows ATM. On the other hand, Wine does not fully support BattlEye yet:(

So your best bet is still Linux port , not Lutris

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Quoting: evergreen

Quoting: sonic

Quoting: evergreenWonderful!!
I wish there was someone who’s making an arma3 installer on lutris, since experimental port has all features like workshop and louncher!

You mean installer for "native" version or Windows version in Wine?

I mean a lutris installer to play the game on wine, in the hope the experimental linux port will come soon with full support, so we won’t need to play this game through wine.

Arma3 port is fully functional , just click install from your Steam library on Linux client.

It does not show Mac&Linux on store page because port usually lags behind a version which makes cross platform play against Windows uncompatible.

Which that is sufficient to say " experimental " from Bohemia's perspective.

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