Tried it with 390.48 drivers. It runs smoother than it was before.

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Looks like a very big scam attempt to me. I'm not using AMD but is Mesa or GPU-Pro stack on Linux supports HDR?

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Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: LeopardI can play Skyrim Drm freed. By simply downloading a cracked version.

LOL, Seriously? Ok so "all" the games are DRM-Free, cause yeah you know you can download cracks... :|

:Facepalm:

But i agree this debate is endless, we need to discuss this on the forum. (This discussion and all the sarcasm reminds me of Windows users VS Linux users, think about it...)

Well , don't facepalm to me then.

Drm=Steam or another client usage to some people on this site

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: rustybroomhandleBecause someone will "correct" the numerous wrong things you said in your comment. This will be followed by someone "correcting" them, and someone "correcting" them, etc etc etc until 8 pages later nobody has anything to say about the article any more.

It's a religious war - nobody ever changes their opinion, nobody ever "wins".

This has nothing to do with opinions.
Steam serves, among other things, as a DRM for developers that publish on it.
GOG doesn't. In fact, GOG makes it a point to be DRM-free and even advertises that.

Where in this is opinion?
It's not like I said any word against or in favor of DRM measures. THAT would certainly lead to the typical holy wars. But I didn't, I was just correcting a factually wrong statement.

Quoting: LeopardI can play Skyrim , without Steam on Wine.

Quoting: LeopardSee , having all this DRM free kinda stuff automatically leads to a certain point.

Your point being?
I honestly don't know what you are trying to tell me here.

Quoting: LeopardSo , real purpose here is playing games without constant protection measures or want GOG to take care all getting DRM stuff for you for some purposes?

I don't even understand this sentence.

Based onto your example:

I can play Skyrim Drm freed. By simply downloading a cracked version.

I'm asking ; is Drm free means to you freely sharing an app or just being thankful to Gog for saving your time to get rid of these Drm protections?

Because you said someone can download from Gog and upload it to net so you won't need to have an account on Gog.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: Cybolic

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: Xpander

Quoting: PublicNuisanceThose that wish to see a DRM free version can vote here:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/apocryph [External Link]

how you know if the steam version is with DRM? it doesnt have multiplayer afaik, so it probably wont use steamworks and if the developers do not add any other DRM stuff then its DRM free there also

Steam is in itself a kind of DRM.

Not this again ... Can't we continue that one in the forums?

Why?
I was just correcting a wrong assumption.

Having a game on Steam serves as DRM. You cannot play Steam-games without buying them (or downloading a cracked version of them, or using family sharing). Pretty clear DRM.
GOG-games are just downloads, everyone can play them even without a GOG account. No DRM at all (except for the first person to buy and upload it somewhere). You can play a GOG-game even if you did not buy it.

I'm saying this fully neutral, not to judge either Steam or GOG or DRM or no-DRM.

That is also relevant to Steam though or other stores.

I can play Skyrim , without Steam on Wine.

:)

See , having all this DRM free kinda stuff automatically leads to a certain point.

So , real purpose here is playing games without constant protection measures or want GOG to take care all getting DRM stuff for you for some purposes?

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: Xpander

Quoting: PublicNuisanceThose that wish to see a DRM free version can vote here:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/apocryph [External Link]

how you know if the steam version is with DRM? it doesnt have multiplayer afaik, so it probably wont use steamworks and if the developers do not add any other DRM stuff then its DRM free there also

Steam is in itself a kind of DRM.

GOG itself is Drm also then. Since you have to open an account on there to access it , confirmation layer.

Problem? :D

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Quoting: mahagrAfter quick testing with i-7700K / 16GB / GTX 1080 @ 4K / FXAA everything maxed out, the game runs around 40-45 FPS most of the time - minimum was slightly below 30 FPS and sometimes it was running even steady 60 FPS! I was using latest beta drivers in Ubuntu 17.10 after a reboot.

Well done Feral; but now I wish that my older Feral games ran as well... :) Both Tomb Raider 2013 and Deus Ex perform really badly compared to this one.

They need Vulkan asap!

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Quoting: numasan

Quoting: Naib

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Naib( I explain distro's to windows users as people only applying certain kb)

That sounds like a very inaccurate explanation. It implies the biggest difference is the amount of security you get.

Lots of things are inaccurate... From a windows user perspective "there are thousands of distro's, what do people target"

There are hundreds of distro's but do you know what? at the core they are all the same. Once you reach the zen of Linux distributions you realise all they are are at different patchlevels compared to each other and different defaults.
Couple that with linux's extremely consistent api going backwards and well if you get something working for one you can get it working for another.

So if my "layman's" explanation to a windows user, in terminology they understand as to why it doesn't matter that there are hundreds of distros... WHAT do you suggest?

As always, the car analogy works here. Do you want a sports car, practical transportation or a bus? One look over another? I see Ubuntu as a cheap, and therefor very popular "car" (sorry, just my opinion)

I agree completely with you about "the zen of Linux distributions". I never understood the panic about fragmentation, when there are so many examples of (commercial) software that works perfectly across distros. Of course it makes sense from a support perspective to limit it to 1-2 distros, but ideally the choice of distro should be up to the individual user. Like trying different kinds of sports to see what fits your personality. In the meanwhile Ubuntu is fine as a "gateway drug" ;)

They're all same at the core but why people see them so different is packaging differences.

.deb packages , .rpm's , ppa's , AUR etc.

That is not something that usual Windows users can grasp easily. They don't care for same kernel , same drivers etc. All they are looking for some kind of .exe .

Go ahead to Wine page for example , you will see the fragmentation on builds page.

That is why Flatpak ( rather than Snap or AppImages) is so important.

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Quoting: Faattori

Quoting: LeopardIt is way better than i expected , compared to TR 2013 performance gap.

Is there anyone tried that game with 394.80 driver?

I just ran a couple benchmarks with Ubuntu 16.04 and 390.48 driver which I assume you meant.

No crashes there and performance seemed in line.

Edit: I take no responsibility for anything anywhere for any reason if something does break for you.
A list of issues encountered in testing would be nice, now it's just "it needs this because reasons".

Thanks , i was wondering about it. Good news then , i'm on 390.48 and i'm not convinced to use beta drivers. :)

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It is way better than i expected , compared to TR 2013 performance gap.

Is there anyone tried that game with 394.80 driver?

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