Quoting: saildata

Quoting: leillo1975

Quoting: ageres> Reviews: Mostly negative.
I wonder why sales were poor…

F1 2016 has "very positive" rating though.

I don't understand why the reviews are negative. The game is not excellent, but it is not so bad either. Maybe people had too high expectations.

I've looked at this before with Steam review data and found that Linux reviews were on average about 10-15% higher than Windows and about 5% (not sig.) higher than Macs. Note that was across all games.

Specific to simulation games, around 5% of Windows users rated above 90% while Linux users had over 12% of simulation games rated above 90%.

I have my theories on why this happens, both in general and simulation game specific, but would really like to hear what others think. These are not based on anything than 'gut feeling' and general observations regarding possible causes:

(1) One possibility is that Linux users are more inclined to fix any errors and then perhaps give a good rating later on, without thinking about the initial experience but rather the current experience.

(2) (I may be guilty of this as well) Linux users may have a lower "bar" for what they feel is a good game and are more likely to give a good rating even with the exact same glitches a Windows user might experience (and give it a negative review).

(3) My final theory on this is that we research and read reviews in more detail before purchase, and are more likely to be more selective therefore purchasing games that we would naturally rate higher (e.g. some people said they don't feel like they enjoy the 'F1' genre)

I actually just thought of one more as I was writing these down, but I won't bore you and suspect that someone may point it out what would be my #4 :)

I'm sure Steam has all this info and the answers :) as they can slice the data much more granular that is made in the API.

Your first two possible causes are coming from one , simple and hurtful truth.

We need games desperately (especially AAA titles) and when they released it we accept it regardless of bugs and performance. Those reviews are mostly positive (forgive me about that) because they think 'if we lick this developers or companies ass ; we can get sequel or more game from them. '

Just like lying to a woman or a man to get access in their pants. Cave man thoughts and behaves simply continues even if we don't realize.

People can't get it. Companies are like prostitutes ; if you have enough money they don't care about your opinions.

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Quoting: MintedGamerThis is great news! I'd love to have multiplayer games with my brother who hasn't switched to Linux yet.

Convert him to Linux soon enough :D

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Quoting: themixturemediaIt does suck a lot but there is so many games out there how do you support them all and time for them all. My biggest issue at the moment is support for my video card RX480. I have noticed that games that have worked with my 960 do not work right anymore for RX480. Moving forward I will have to keep an eye on what games I can use if it does not support my RX480.

Maybe you should try Mesa drivers.

GPU Model: RX480 8 gb
GPU Driver: Proprietary

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This looks dark ; i like it :D

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That is good news ; only thing that remain is performance update which can be provided with Vulkan.

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Quoting: wleoncioI wonder what the chances are of us getting F1 2017 would be. What would make Codemasters/Feral reconsider porting the franchise to Linux?

These games are seasonal games ; as you can see it from the title. There is no meaning to port if you don't provide day 1 release like Sega doing with their Football Manager series.

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Quoting: Alm888

Quoting: LeopardProbably cutting deal with Codemasters for F1 2015 was cheaper than porting already good seller game.They simply tried to get maximum earning for porting that to Linux,because licence price would differ to targeted platforms. That was an experiment which failed; nothing more.They knew at the start that game won't sell good enough but yet they give it a shot.

LOLwut?! So, in other words, they picked the weak product to port (and not the strong one) because they hoped to feed it to Linux gamers based on the assumption we are experiencing deficiency of car simulators and ignorant about the superior product, thus will "eat what has been served" no matter the quality?

VERY! SHREWD! MOVE!

Quoting: LeopardThey're porting F1 2016 to only Mac because game has good reviews and with a game generally satisfies people you can sell more and Mac user base is bigger than Linux.

Edit:Yep,you can see that is proving my point.

https://twitter.com/feralgames/status/848881198696996869 [External Link]

Actually, not. It does not prove the point. It is known problem that a lot of Macs are quite weak hardware-wise and Feral bets heavily on Metal in hopes it will help them widen the reach on Apple products. This does not relate directly with "good reviews" and general satisfaction. But, I say this again, this is a gamble on Feral's part: even on the twitter some ask what about older Macs without Metal support.

I think that way;F1 2016 has bigger chance to sell due to it is good reviews,a bigger user base and (thanks to Metal) increased number of capable Macs to handle this game

When it comes to Linux,our market is desperate and begging for some genres and this leads people to just buy this games for support even they didn't like the game.

Mac users are much more selective about it and i think licence pay of a game differs from if is it for Linux or Mac. Simply Mac port deals will cost them much more because of bigger sale potential.

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Quoting: tmtvlWe don't get good games because bad games don't sell well. That seems amazingly fair and even-handed.

Probably cutting deal with Codemasters for F1 2015 was cheaper than porting already good seller game.They simply tried to get maximum earning for porting that to Linux,because licence price would differ to targeted platforms. That was an experiment which failed; nothing more.They knew at the start that game won't sell good enough but yet they give it a shot.

They're porting F1 2016 to only Mac because game has good reviews and with a game generally satisfies people you can sell more and Mac user base is bigger than Linux.

Edit:Yep,you can see that is proving my point.

https://twitter.com/feralgames/status/848881198696996869 [External Link]

Tweet says that : Thanks to Metal, F1 2016 uses the CPU and GPU more efficiently than was previously possible, so it can run on a wide range of Macs.

Wide range of Macs. Big user base targeted and not only that but also they targeted wide range of devices.

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Quoting: leillo1975It's a pity. I enjoy a lot F1 2015. I don't understand why the game does not have the success it deserves. Maybe I'm too fan of F1 and not everyone is like me. Like Liam says F1 2016 It's considerably better than 2015.

It is not even succesful on Windows too ; that is a game and genre specific issue. F1 is not glorious or popular now, like it was in old days.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: UltraAltesBrotThat means other Feral ports seem to have been a financial success.. which is good i guess?

How many of them had a sequel ported to prove?

Total War series

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