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Editorial: On paying for Linux games when you already have a Windows version
15 Mar 2017 at 5:30 pm UTC
http://www.deliver2.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=331 [External Link]
They're even selling this game via their site,going into a discrimination like that in Steam is unacceptable.
Feral is also porting games and selling keys via their store but they're not dividing games in Steam.
15 Mar 2017 at 5:30 pm UTC
Quoting: KimyrielleI'd rather want publishers to pay porting houses a flat sum for the porting work instead of sub-licensing the game to them and make them rely on their own sales. This would end this discussion right here and there, eliminate the confusing "which platform is the purchase actually attributed to?" stuff, and is more befitting the actual work they do anyway (which is essentially outsourcing).No,this VP's greed.
I can see this particular case as being exceptional, but generally I do not wish to pay separately for each platform I want to play a game on, and would largely refuse to. I hope Valve won't stop pressuring publishers not to adopt "per platform" sales. Ideally, a game runs on every platform on release day and people can install it on whatever OS they prefer.
Really what's next? Charging again to make the game run on a different GPU?
http://www.deliver2.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=331 [External Link]
They're even selling this game via their site,going into a discrimination like that in Steam is unacceptable.
Feral is also porting games and selling keys via their store but they're not dividing games in Steam.
Editorial: On paying for Linux games when you already have a Windows version
15 Mar 2017 at 5:00 pm UTC
Steam is a game platform,not os based platform.
15 Mar 2017 at 5:00 pm UTC
Quoting: wolfyrionNope , Nope , Nope!!!Yes,i agree.I'm just shocked about attitude of people at this topic. People are confusing about being greatful to a company vs being approval about their greedy moves.
Please stop this NOW and dont make it a trend!
I will not support any company or any porter who wants to have a separate version of a Game just for its greedy purposes.
This is a total Fiasco!
A game should support from the beginning the 3 OS...
Win , Mac and Linux! End of Story!
If you are a porter and you want to port an existing game then get money from the people who didnt buy the specific game from the start.
I have supported that company and I bought it when it was in windows, its an old version of the game that I already have and I have just switched OS to Linux and if its ported to Linux , yes I should have the right to get it for FREE!
Example 1 :
I am a windows user and have already bought many games on Windows and I want to migrate to Linux!
OHHHH MY GOD!!!!
ALL MY GAMES ARE NOT SUPPORTED ON LINUX AND I HAVE TO BUY 2K GAMES AGAIN JUST FOR LINUX WTF??!?!?!!!!
#@$%@#% THIS!
I AM STAYING WITH WINDOWS!!!!
Please STOP THIS trend and dont support this kind of porters!!!
We want everyone to play their games on their favorite OS!!! Doesnt matter if its Windows or Mac or Linux!
With this kind of practices you are forcing all the people to buy again all the games from the start because at that time there was not a Linux native port!
NOPE NOPE NOPE!!!
At the end we will have 3 separate version of the games
Rocket League for MAC
Rocket League for Windows
Rocket League for Linux
Do you really want this scenario to happen??? I DONT!!!
We want all the games to have 3 versions and buy it only once! that is called a PC - MY PC can have any different OS
Linux , Mac , Windows - I do whatever I want with my PC
PC's are not consoles!
I really disagree with this kind of practises and I am very disappointed because Gamingonlinux supported this kind of ports.
Many companies are giving away many re-mastered versions of their existing games for FREE which now are supporting Linux and Mac.
I demand from this company to merge the existing game into one and refund all the money to the people who have bought if they already own the existing game!
Steam is a game platform,not os based platform.
Editorial: On paying for Linux games when you already have a Windows version
15 Mar 2017 at 3:13 pm UTC
But this inside Steam; Os differ sale will only hurt Linux.
15 Mar 2017 at 3:13 pm UTC
Quoting: liamdaweTo the people apparently glossing over the article, do note I specifically said this:It will be only reasonable if there was a donational buy option.I suggest that;VP need to sell Steam key for this under their page or store if there is users who want justify their work.
Quoting: meEven something simple like an upgrade option, that way we can still ensure the porter directly gets their due cut of the money for their work.I'm not specifically advocating for paying twice if you already own it, the point is to have the ability to pay something, if the developer/publisher so chooses.
But this inside Steam; Os differ sale will only hurt Linux.
Editorial: On paying for Linux games when you already have a Windows version
15 Mar 2017 at 3:07 pm UTC
Is this kind of thing becomes a standart,if will be helpful to Linux community or not?
In my opinion it will stop all possible users who wants to switch from Windows.
What do you think,is this thing can be described as a nonsense or not?
15 Mar 2017 at 3:07 pm UTC
Quoting: michaI have too many games that I want to play but cannot play due to time reason. As a result I only support practices I like (to succeed). Meaning I don't but these games at all. Similar, I only buy games with Linux versions. And only full price only if it's a day-1 release (or at the very least never has been discounted before).Hi.As you are a game dev i want to ask you a simple question,which some people here are seems to more thick skulled than i think.
Ofc there might be exceptions if you really want to play but I try to stick with these rules as much as possible.
Is this kind of thing becomes a standart,if will be helpful to Linux community or not?
In my opinion it will stop all possible users who wants to switch from Windows.
What do you think,is this thing can be described as a nonsense or not?
Editorial: On paying for Linux games when you already have a Windows version
15 Mar 2017 at 2:29 pm UTC Likes: 3
15 Mar 2017 at 2:29 pm UTC Likes: 3
I can't believe that comments section.You guys are so into that pay twice thing;if that becomes a standart it will be the same with Apple's lockdown.
And this thing is negative for who willing to switch Linux.Wine is already so hurtful for Linux gaming this will do things even worse.
Yesterday Liam warned me about my comments.I said fanatic to an user.But fanatic was not justifying it.
Literally,some said at top zealots which is so true.
C'mon,you're so away from gaming; you started to approve companies or developers greedy moves.
Steam should be a game store,not a platform store.
And this thing is negative for who willing to switch Linux.Wine is already so hurtful for Linux gaming this will do things even worse.
Yesterday Liam warned me about my comments.I said fanatic to an user.But fanatic was not justifying it.
Literally,some said at top zealots which is so true.
C'mon,you're so away from gaming; you started to approve companies or developers greedy moves.
Steam should be a game store,not a platform store.
Editorial: On paying for Linux games when you already have a Windows version
15 Mar 2017 at 11:29 am UTC Likes: 3
15 Mar 2017 at 11:29 am UTC Likes: 3
That is reasonable but i hope this approach won't be a tradition about other releases.That is against to platform freedom.
Most of the people came to Linux from Windows platform,including me.If people had to pay again their owned games again,that will change their minds.No one wants to pay twice.
If we need more users on platform (which obviously we need),that is a dangerous move if this turn into a normal thing.
Most of the people came to Linux from Windows platform,including me.If people had to pay again their owned games again,that will change their minds.No one wants to pay twice.
If we need more users on platform (which obviously we need),that is a dangerous move if this turn into a normal thing.
The 'Australian Summer' update for Civilization VI is now live on Linux
14 Mar 2017 at 9:46 pm UTC
14 Mar 2017 at 9:46 pm UTC
Quoting: kfAhaha,i see what you did there :DQuoting: LeopardAny news about performance fix? I think that is more important than DLCMore to the point, is this a real update?
The 'Australian Summer' update for Civilization VI is now live on Linux
14 Mar 2017 at 8:18 pm UTC Likes: 2
14 Mar 2017 at 8:18 pm UTC Likes: 2
Any news about performance fix? I think that is more important than DLC
The awesome looking FPS 'STRAFE' has been delayed, with no set Linux release date now
14 Mar 2017 at 8:08 pm UTC
Or getting some crazy fps drops on Mad Max and try to behave like 'that is normal'
No,thanks.I will pass.
14 Mar 2017 at 8:08 pm UTC
Quoting: Luke_NukemLike even barely getting 30 fps from Civilization VI and try to be happy about it?With so powerful specsQuoting: LeopardSo, arbitrary rules that *you* made up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Quoting: Luke_NukemIf you don't mind,please look at the message i explained my real gaming termsQuoting: LeopardWait.... Real gaming?Quoting: TuxeeIf you want to do real gaming,you will need to use other platforms besides Linux.If you don't think so,ask Liam.Who also uses a console for real gaming.Quoting: LeopardYep,if this user share won't change i'm afraid eventually we will migrate to Windows again.Good riddance. I suppose people (like me) use Linux based operating systems not only because of a certain market share on Steam.
Yeah,fanatics like you always exist so i'm not surprised.
Are you implying that the games I play on Linux aren't *real* games?
If you want to do real Linux gaming, you need to use other hardware, like a Core i5, or i7, or even a new Ryzen, and you definitely need to run an Nvidia card.
See how that works?
Or getting some crazy fps drops on Mad Max and try to behave like 'that is normal'
No,thanks.I will pass.
The awesome looking FPS 'STRAFE' has been delayed, with no set Linux release date now
14 Mar 2017 at 7:45 pm UTC
14 Mar 2017 at 7:45 pm UTC
Quoting: Luke_NukemIf you don't mind,please look at the message i explained my real gaming termsQuoting: LeopardWait.... Real gaming?Quoting: TuxeeIf you want to do real gaming,you will need to use other platforms besides Linux.If you don't think so,ask Liam.Who also uses a console for real gaming.Quoting: LeopardYep,if this user share won't change i'm afraid eventually we will migrate to Windows again.Good riddance. I suppose people (like me) use Linux based operating systems not only because of a certain market share on Steam.
Yeah,fanatics like you always exist so i'm not surprised.
Are you implying that the games I play on Linux aren't *real* games?
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