Quoting: fbt

And when you once get into that circle you realized you're not so into gaming after all.Because you're trying to keep up with possible ports,api's,Wine like solutions.That is not 'real' gaming if you ask me. When all games served at your feet and you don't have to worry about api,quality of port etc.

I've been gaming on linux exclusively since around 2007. You are talking shit. Port problems (although usually not game-breaking) are common on all patforms. Porting games after the fact is hard, especially when you're an overconfident overpaid AAA developer worth exactly shit and nothing more. CoD ports, anyone? Arkham Knight? Japanese games are notoriously bad when it comes to PC ports. There's also a number of console ports that pretty much require you to own a gamepad, but some won't even tell you that before the purchase. Ports are hard.

EDIT: Oh and you had to wait more than a year, IIRC, for GTAV. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW.
Console ports get delayed a lot.

gaming starts to matter more

The fuck does that mean. Are you just flinging important-sounding phrases/words at people? It doesn't work. That doesn't make any sense.

Just my thoughts,i'm not intend to offend anyone.

Well now I know you're just a shill and/or troll.

Pfff,i guess this needs to be answered.

First of all;if porting is not a problem then why do we get lower fps on mostly any Linux released title?Same hardware but less fps,even some games that critically goes to unplayable zone.

Second;Windows needed to wait for GTA5.But is it came as exact same visuals on Windows or is it beat the console versions by enhanced graphics? Maybe you didn't notice but we're waiting for only ports,not even improved versions.

Third;you know what it means.It means you don't need to worry about fps,which api used,you don't need to wonder about if this game will come to Linux or not.It is a certainty,why you should wonder?

I'm not a troll,even if i was a troll why should care it?Even the Linux is a threat to Windows gaming or other platforms?Why should i be a member of this site in first place? But you're the bad eggs (if you wouldn't call me as a troll i wouldn't define you but you forced me) because you're just ignoring the facts and normalize them. If you and all other users continue to normalize that performance issues than they don't even bother to make it good. They will say ; 'ahh,Linux guys.They used to get lower performance'.

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Quoting: SamsaiThis "OH NOES, STEAM SURVEY SAYS LINUX PERCENTAGE IS DROPPING, DOOM AND GLOOM NOW!" stuff sure is entertaining.

You're right ,it is not entertaining but that is a fact and one of logical reasons about this lack of some games and cancelled ports or Linux version promised but cancelled Kickstarter games.

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Quoting: kf

Quoting: LeopardDon't need to wait for ports

I, personally, don't. I play games that are available. I'm guessing those aren't real games?

Quoting: Leopardgetting access to AAA games via in house ports and at the first day

So, indie games and/or ports aren't real games either?

Quoting: Leoparddon't have to worry about port qualities

I would argue that this is an issue on all platforms . Also, I don't see how this affects the 'realness' of me playing the games.

Quoting: Leopardnot try to be considering as a viable platform instead of becoming one.

Linux already is a viable gaming platform. It just has a smaller library than other platforms. Again, why does this affect the 'realness' of the games?

I get that you don't find the games available on Linux adequate, but to make such a broad statement that playing video games on Linux isn't real gaming kind of rubs me the wrong way.

Sadly,all i said above is happening.Not to you maybe or for a bunch of people but it is happening.

And when you once get into that circle you realized you're not so into gaming after all.Because you're trying to keep up with possible ports,api's,Wine like solutions.That is not 'real' gaming if you ask me. When all games served at your feet and you don't have to worry about api,quality of port etc. gaming starts to matter more

Just my thoughts,i'm not intend to offend anyone.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: LeopardYou don't want to agree but we're in a really bad situation.Look at the articles you wrote.Most of the populated comments are revolving under via Wine news.Real gaming evolving around Windows and other populated platforms.Not Linux

I think we're in a great situation.

Valve has hired a bunch of people to work on drivers, we got more big ports last year than we ever did before and the trend is set to continue.

Of course we are when we look at the past but is that enough to catch gaming market attention?I doubt it

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Quoting: evergreenBought! 4Euros? no problem!

Actual problem is not the money.Why we appreciate Steam?Because when a game released for multiple platforms,you can access by having one.

That thing is not so different from Windows Store thing.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: LeopardIf you want to do real gaming,you will need to use other platforms besides Linux.If you don't think so,ask Liam.Who also uses a console for real gaming.

Yeah,fanatics like you always exist so i'm not surprised.

Just to make something very clear. Linux is and always will be my primary platform for anything.

"Real gaming" can be anything. Linux has plenty of high quality games now.

I own a PS4 because the girlfriend purchased one at release and I picked up mine a good while before Linux gaming got serious. My PS4 has become nothing more than a Netflix box. I own a Switch again, due to family, but sure I'm gonna play it since we have it.

Don't use me to boost up silly arguments.

I'm not trying to use you.That was a simple example that comes to my mind.

You don't want to agree but we're in a really bad situation.Look at the articles you wrote.Most of the populated comments are revolving under via Wine news.Real gaming evolving around Windows and other populated platforms.Not Linux

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Quoting: kf

Quoting: LeopardIf you want to do real gaming,you will need to use other platforms besides Linux.

I created an account here just because of this comment. I would like to know what real gaming is. I think I might have been doing it wrong.

Wonderful :)

Real gaming:Don't need to wait for ports,getting access to AAA games via in house ports and at the first day,don't have to worry about port qualities,not try to be considering as a viable platform instead of becoming one.

I hope this was helpful.

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Quoting: Tuxee

Quoting: LeopardYep,if this user share won't change i'm afraid eventually we will migrate to Windows again.

Good riddance. I suppose people (like me) use Linux based operating systems not only because of a certain market share on Steam.

If you want to do real gaming,you will need to use other platforms besides Linux.If you don't think so,ask Liam.Who also uses a console for real gaming.

Yeah,fanatics like you always exist so i'm not surprised.

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Yep,if this user share won't change i'm afraid eventually we will migrate to Windows again.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey [External Link]

I mean,they're right about don't care Linux.If users don't care it,why they do?

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Quoting: UrgickMaybe official release of Arma 3 will depend on how well this game will selles on mac/linux

If that is the case (which i don't think so) ,i wouldn't buy a single game that VP involved. You're saying that if you want me to port games to Linux,you must buy every crap i ported. I doubt Vp think that way

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