Quoting: ShmerlWell, if this won't be tied to Steam - good. I'd prefer it to be FOSS nevertheless. But I wasn't talking about this particular case, but about other examples of already existing lock-in.

Are you talking about Drm?Actually it's not Steam caused problem,which is not a problem for me.Simply developers try to protect their works with drm(which is natural),Steam is not implementing that Drm s.They want it that way.And that's why Steam became so huge over years.They provided a safe zone for them.

If there is any willing developers to release Drm free versions,Gog or Itch.io s doors are fully open for them.Even they can do their own sales via their web sites.No one is forcing them to "Put your game on Steam,dammit" way.That's their choice and i think we need to respect that.

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Quoting: LeopardThen tell your beloved GOG to make some improvements.

Improvements to what? We are talking about development libraries, not about stores. But Valve happens to provide libraries which are tied to their store. That's a problem, and it's problem that Valve cause.

That's unclear for now.As you can see,it supports Android too which i can't relate this with the lock-in?Is there any chance that Valve try to lock-in on Android?

You know that,so many games on Android is developing by Unity these days.So that will not cause a lock in,because they're providing for Unity basically for Android.

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Quoting: ShmerlBeing a leader makes concerns of lock-in only stronger. Leaders which lock out competition become monopolists.

Then tell your beloved GOG to make some improvements.I would love to see that to,i want Witcher3 on Linux,Witcher 1 and Card Game and Adventure one too,which they support Mac and Windows.(except Witcher 3). Oh also i want to see client which is available for Mac and Windows.

You're all but talking,Gog does nothing.So if you can't accept this fact,there is no point of talking.

Valve is the pioneer of Linux gaming so far,so why not Gog take a step in this world?Ohh,wait.You're right.We're not profitable.That's not Valve thinks anyway.Thank you Valve.

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Quoting: LeopardI don't think that will create a lock in.I think that is developed for especially SteamOS and also SteamMachines.Also it's helpful for Linux.

Microsoft is providing Dolby Atmos for Win10 and XboxOne.That's the counter for that i guess.

I can't see them open sourcing it though well either company really, but aside from Steam what choices do you genuinely have on Linux basically GOG and Ichio neither of which have the same range. Hell even on windows Origin and Uplay are hardly alternatives in terms of library. Of course depends of the type of game you mostly play and are into if you mainly go for indie games then there are options if you like more mainstream titles its Steam or Steam.

If Valve is never do that thing,GOG or Itch will do it?Probably no,never actually.

So beside of that lockdown worries,that is nothing to worry about.If they're uncomfortable for that solution,they can develop a similar solution and make it open source.But they won't do that,everyone knows that.
Let's face it,Steam is the leader of Windows and Linux.Origin is hardly keeping it there by two or three Origin only games.BF1,Fifa and some other stuff.So why complaining about that Foss or not thing,enjoy it while you can.

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I don't think that will create a lock in.I think that is developed for especially SteamOS and also SteamMachines.Also it's helpful for Linux.

Microsoft is providing Dolby Atmos for Win10 and XboxOne.That's the counter for that i guess.

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Quoting: M@yeulC

Quoting: LeopardSome people say Blender is a very good editing program,which covered with rendering software id.

No, Blender is a very good operating System, just like Emacs :P

:D

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Some people say Blender is a very good editing program,which covered with rendering software id.

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Quoting: Luke_Nukem"Win PC, Linux, Mac"

*starts sweating*

Finally they're starting to give it up Pc term for Windows.

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Quoting: ShmerlIf you want to be formalistic, itch.io accept DRMed games. GOG don't. They are a minority on itch, but still. But this is not the main point here as before, since Croteam aren't releasing their games anywhere outside of Steam. Neither GOG, nor itch.io or Humble. As some suggested above, that's because their games are multiplayer (I never played them, so I had no clue). And rely on Steamworks. In such case they are locked into Steam. That's what makes quite a lot of games Steam exclusives.

Then i can suggest you to push Croteam to publish their Drm free versions through their website. If it works for you.

I know itch's policy,it's all up to publisher. Like Cdpr's doing. They're the publishers and everything up to them,Windows,Mac support etc.

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Quoting: redshiftDesiring games to appear on GOG is obviously about DRM side of things since they have a strict policy about that. I don't care what store Talos Principle or Serious Sam will be released on, but I want it DRM-free.

They're doing very good job on Windows and Mac,great for them. I'm just pointing that how silly is to, try to push Croteam about putting their games to GOG and worshipping to a platform which didn't care Linux a bit.

If you want some drm-free,there is Itch.io. I'm sick of that people treating to GOG like they're the only defender and saviour of drm-free. Urgh...

But all i see is,worshipping to GOG. Dude,seriously why?

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