Quoting: AllocSeems to really depend on the GPU/driver combination, some play without issues (and obviously better performance than GLCore) for hours, some crash all the time.

Well that's unfortunate, but it gives me hope that it just might be something about my setup. Even though A18 manage to run with Vulkan for me (only tested it for a moment), because once I joined a game with friends and it crashed/froze immediately on spawn (and even deleted the tutorial quest) I havent try it again since. Now it just crashes back to desktop once I try to start a session, menu works fine though.

Quoting: rcritI played for an hour using Vulkan and it looked and performed fine for me on nVidia 440.82.

I am running the newest 440.100, which you probably also have queued up looking you are also running Fedora. But the fact you manage to run it gives me hope its just something with my setup.

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I don't think the Dynamic Music System is working in Linux, they disabled it in one of the early A18 versions because it caused crashing anytime you talked with the trader. They blamed Unity and said that they are waiting for them to fix it. Played for about 2 hours now and I didn't hear any ingame music, so it still must be disabled probably.

Did someone manage to run it with Vulkan without constant crashes? Specifically Nvidia, but I wonder how AMD works too.

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Quoting: x_wing

Quoting: SolitarySo your reasoning is that because online games have EOL, so what is one more?
There is no reason for game like this to die when some manager decides to pull the plug. Dedicated/community servers used to be a sure thing. Just because that practice mostly stopped (not because users did not want it) does not mean it suddenly became okay and something we should accept and it definitely should not be used as an excuse of Stadia model.

My reasoning goes inline with the way this games are designed. Current Online RPG designs follows the idea of monopolize the community in one place and create the necessary game mechanics in order to force you to play there in order to get the "new" super incredible sword and shield that you can only get if you pay for the current season pass and played 800hs the last six months (or if you payed the 120 USD in order to get it in a direct way). This games are made to die when they aren't profitable anymore for the company behind. Is not about story, is not about gameplay it's just about grinding.

The games are not to blame though. You are right that it's not about story, or even the gameplay, it's about the game itself. The fact that those companies treat those games like that only works if you accept it as done deal.

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Quoting: x_wingIMO this are the types of games that being released native or Stadia only won't change the results. I understand that for games that have offline components Stadia is a big "no way" in our heads but for games that completely depends on the existence of game servers in order to play, Stadia or not this games already have a EOL date from day zero.

So your reasoning is that because online games have EOL, so what is one more?
There is no reason for game like this to die when some manager decides to pull the plug. Dedicated/community servers used to be a sure thing. Just because that practice mostly stopped (not because users did not want it) does not mean it suddenly became okay and something we should accept and it definitely should not be used as an excuse of Stadia model.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: elmapulBenchmarks...
we need benchmarks comparing the performance on windows and linux...

Someone else will need to. I do not own a VR set, too expensive for me.

One would assume Valve wanting to promote SteamVR on Linux (especially now with HL:Alyx coming out) would use GOL as a review platform. Why they haven't sent you an Index kit already is beyond me. :huh:

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Quoting: LungDrago

Quoting: SolitaryThe whole Covid situation in Europe is often misconstructed as EU acting late or not doing anything. EU has its limited competency and countries healthcare systems are not part of it, critics often like to bash EU for not doing anything or the opposite accusing them of overstepping their competency. Solving the Covid situation is national problem, so EU really has no say in here. Problem of Italy is that they have oldest population in Europe and they have lower amount of ventilators per capita than other countries. Italy is not a victim that got left behind by bureaucrats in Brussels. Nobody knew what to expect and they were the first that got hit hard, but not the only one (Spain for example).

What EU did and did it well was rescuing citizen from abroad that got stuck thanks to travel bans. What EU can do is to prepare some more coordinated effort in the future, but till then it is up to the countries themselves and that is not EU fault. This whole situation is unprecedented and makes sense there was no master plan for it. No country in the world, democratic or not really knew what to expect and how to prepare themselves. If anybody claims they have the answer (if only they had the power) they are most likely lying, there is no simple solution here. Lot of countries in EU solved the Covid situation fine though.

If anything I would say the migration crisis in 2015 was more of an example where we saw problems of such nature, but even that is not that simple, because it was Germany that initiated that whole mess with invitation and then acted surprised when other countries refused to participate. That whole issue is more political than anything else, because the solutions are already on the table.

I'm aware this is not really an EU problem, I really should have said Europe instead of EU as I actually meant the geographic region rather than a political body. Anyhow, maybe I am biased but to me it was common sense that a virus outbreak was coming. Sure, there was no telling where it would spread next, in our day and age, everyone is traveling from everywhere to everywhere, but that doesn't mean we sit about doing nothing until it actually becomes a real big problem. That's where Italy (and Spain, as you said) came in. Only once the red numbers came from those did I noticed governments taking action. Until that, no one thought of stocking up on medical supplies for the coming crisis. In my country I would call it a debacle - first there were no supplies to speak of at all and then, with a hoorah, medical workers received equipment that a) came late, b) was not of sufficient quantity, and c) wasn't even of the right kind. To me, that's not a government answering a crisis, that's a government trying to placate its subjects with whatever they could scrounge up until they fix their hot mess.

But I digress, a dictatorship could've underestimated the situation just as badly as democracy did.

Definitely many mistakes and neglect were made by many parties involved, starting on national levels, but that should be no surprise. On the other hand, it is not really a political or systemic issue. Hindsight 20/20, lot of "Should have beens". Also let's not forget China did not help the situation, but that is beside the point and hopefully will be a lesson learned.

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: SolitaryIf anything I would say the migration crisis in 2015 was more of an example where we saw problems of such nature, but even that is not that simple, because it was Germany that initiated that whole mess with invitation and then acted surprised when other countries refused to participate. That whole issue is more political than anything else, because the solutions are already on the table.

Honestly the migrant crisis of 2015 was less Germany's fault and more that of the US and Russia playing cold-war in Syria.

Well, that did start it. But migration crisis wasn't just refugees pouring in (that's where the "Refugees welcome" slogan comes in), it transformed into basically anyone trying to enter EU (illegally). It sparked big movement of people from Africa and Asia, which definitely did not escape from warzones. It created discourse that certain people refused to admit that distinction (still labeling all as refugees) and in response to that certain countries flat out refused to accept a single refugee/migrant even if they were willing at first. The situation as a whole got mostly solved by the deal with Turkey and the fact that the bordering countries that were receiving the biggest hits just got fed up and had to solve it on their own (with maybe some financial help and resources, but nothing systematic), because there was no other solution presented. EU was capable, but not willing to solve it systematically.

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Quoting: LungDrago

Quoting: SolitaryI am not sure you or I understand each other. I think democracy works wonders... because it basically limits the aspect of "people problem" that I mentioned, because nobody is allowed to have too much power. The system is designed to limit, slowdown and prevent any radical changes.

Meanwhile with socialism, where you have strong government you get that problem, because you are governed by people that inherently have more power thanks to stronger standing of the state. People with too much power = abuse of power.

The other side of that coin is that when stuff happens and something needs to be done about it, democracy can be slow to react. Take the Covid situation here in EU. Essentially, Italy had to take the punch for most governments to stop just bickering about the issue and start doing something about it.

The whole Covid situation in Europe is often misconstructed as EU acting late or not doing anything. EU has its limited competency and countries healthcare systems are not part of it, critics often like to bash EU for not doing anything or the opposite accusing them of overstepping their competency. Solving the Covid situation is national problem, so EU really has no say in here. Problem of Italy is that they have oldest population in Europe and they have lower amount of ventilators per capita than other countries. Italy is not a victim that got left behind by bureaucrats in Brussels. Nobody knew what to expect and they were the first that got hit hard, but not the only one (Spain for example).

What EU did and did it well was rescuing citizen from abroad that got stuck thanks to travel bans. What EU can do is to prepare some more coordinated effort in the future, but till then it is up to the countries themselves and that is not EU fault. This whole situation is unprecedented and makes sense there was no master plan for it. No country in the world, democratic or not really knew what to expect and how to prepare themselves. If anybody claims they have the answer (if only they had the power) they are most likely lying, there is no simple solution here. Lot of countries in EU solved the Covid situation fine though.

If anything I would say the migration crisis in 2015 was more of an example where we saw problems of such nature, but even that is not that simple, because it was Germany that initiated that whole mess with invitation and then acted surprised when other countries refused to participate. That whole issue is more political than anything else, because the solutions are already on the table.

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Quoting: Samsai

Quoting: Solitary...but it always boils down to one weak point and that is people itself.

... unless you believe that democracy doesn't work, which I very much don't agree with.

I am not sure you or I understand each other. I think democracy works wonders... because it basically limits the aspect of "people problem" that I mentioned, because nobody is allowed to have too much power. The system is designed to limit, slowdown and prevent any radical changes.

Meanwhile with socialism, where you have strong government you get that problem, because you are governed by people that inherently have more power thanks to stronger standing of the state. People with too much power = abuse of power.

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Quoting: SamsaiAnd finally, it is actually possible to construct new systems by combining parts of other systems that have been proven beneficial. It is possible to have markets and competition in otherwise socialist systems for example. Limiting yourself to a binary choice between extremes generally leaves you with two bad choices. Some additional nuance is usually required.

This is already reality in most of the EU, capitalism mixed in with (more or less) democratic socialism... "free" healthcare and decent quality public education with certain assurances that you wont end up homeless after one mistake. I would say it is working pretty well. US has none of that (they even have privatized prison system, geez) so it is understandable that they have strong (far)leftist movement, but that's a rabbit hole noone else should follow them down through.

We have seen what marxist socialism can do, all through out 20th century and it is always only good on paper. Fighting for the little man, the workers, peasants, or in current day it is minorities, but it always boils down to one weak point and that is people itself. People end up telling others how to live, what can or cant they do/say. And we see it again today, lot of western countries that didn't go through socialist era in the past is proposing it like it's the new hip thing, younger generations especially. Except nowdays it is wrapped in different package it is really the same, used to be workers and peasants fighting the bourgeois, so they see it justified stealing their land/farms, nowdays it's identity politics and forced diversity, which is basically the same concept. It is also reason why (in what I would still call western civilization) most central/eastern european countries are not going crazy about that, because they already lived through something like it.

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