Quoting: JanPeople not willing to pay for essential work like converting or partly rebuilding a DirectX-based game for OpenGL or Vulkan and play-testing on several distributions is both sad and frustrating to see.

As long as the attitude of some Linux users (both new and veteran) regarding this topic is not changing, I'm afraid Linux gaming will remain a tiny niche even compared to Mac gaming.

To give you 3 current examples:

1. Aspyr pitched both a Mac and Linux version of Mafia III to 2K. They agreed on macOS, but were not interested in the Linux market.

2. Jonathan Blow released the Mac version of The Witness using the Metal-API a few days ago on the Mac App Store first (self-published), Steam will follow later. Some people on Twitter and I guess reddit asked him for a Linux version. He basically answered "no one would buy them anyway as Braid didn't make any money on Linux".

3. Double Fine released Headlander for Mac using Apple's Metal-API and denied plans for Linux support because Adult Swim doesn't see its viability. The game was built for DirectX and Metal only -- no OpenGL or Vulkan support.

This might change as soon as more companies start to build their games from scratch using Vulkan instead of DirectX 12.

But for the moment, Apple's decision to axe OpenGL and go Metal-only on macOS and iOS hurts Linux gaming more than some people might admit.

A couple of counter points where the hell did you get that information from as i googled that and got nothing are you sure thats real because 2k have been very pro Linux. Point 2 Braid sold badly under linux okay boo hoo maybe it was the length of time it took to get to linux and secondly its not exactly a must play game imo. Double fine abandoning Linux would be a shame but meh can live without more pixel retro indie games.

Secondly why would anyone be happy to pay for a game twice I own it played it and beat it on another platform. When i switched to Linux I made a point to only buy games that are Linux but why should i be financially punished for dual booting back in the day.

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Quoting: LeopardThat is reasonable but i hope this approach won't be a tradition about other releases.That is against to platform freedom.

Most of the people came to Linux from Windows platform,including me.If people had to pay again their owned games again,that will change their minds.No one wants to pay twice.
If we need more users on platform (which obviously we need),that is a dangerous move if this turn into a normal thing.

Agreed if i had to start paying for the Linux only versions of games I bought back in the day, i d be annoyed but i probably make a call if i liked the game that much i d probably run it on wine if it was feasible or if not i would go back to dual booting.

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Quoting: LeopardYep,if this user share won't change i'm afraid eventually we will migrate to Windows again.

Good riddance. I suppose people (like me) use Linux based operating systems not only because of a certain market share on Steam.

If you want to do real gaming,you will need to use other platforms besides Linux.If you don't think so,ask Liam.Who also uses a console for real gaming.

Yeah,fanatics like you always exist so i'm not surprised.

Wait.... Real gaming?

Are you implying that the games I play on Linux aren't *real* games?

If you don't mind,please look at the message i explained my real gaming terms

So, arbitrary rules that *you* made up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you want to do real Linux gaming, you need to use other hardware, like a Core i5, or i7, or even a new Ryzen, and you definitely need to run an Nvidia card.

See how that works?

Like even barely getting 30 fps from Civilization VI and try to be happy about it?With so powerful specs
Or getting some crazy fps drops on Mad Max and try to behave like 'that is normal'

No,thanks.I will pass.

what do you run though do you have and AMD processor and AMD graphics cards because it is true their are big performance hits on amd

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This is encouraging news now all we need them to do is re hire the guys they got rid of that did the original source engine ports and get working on some linux games new ip exclusive to IP that would be a very strong statement.

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This is a question with a very simple answer, if you don't want to use Linux as you're main gaming OS don't use Windows use Android use a peasant box or whatever. Real question is why does a steam survey change you're opinion on you're os can you play the games you want to play yes or no if its no then Linux is not for you.

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Enter the gungeon is on sale on humble bundle currently at 50 percent off. as well as shadow warrior, hotline basically devolver have a upto 85 percent off at humble bundle store currently

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Quoting: BoldosWell, an ordinary shooter...
...nothing special, a bit of a disappointment, really (Tactical Ops from 1999 is more interesting!).

Anyway, will not want my money back, I'm proudly supporting the Linux devs out there :)

Fair enough i personally am enjoying it its an arcade shooter short game matches perfect to just pick up play a couple of games and bouncing. Tact ops was very different from memory that was more in the style of the old school tactical shooter rainbow six.

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80He was head of ID when they published Quake 3 on linux I think in a later interview when asked about Linux he said something along lines of we tried it once the market is not there.

Comments made all those years ago are hardly relevant today.

Show me proof that it is not relevant ideally by booting up fallout 4 and skyrim under linux oh wait you cant because Bethesda and ID still have that same mindset.

As I said, Linux will have to stand on its own as a business proposition. If Bethesda doesn't see the market, then that is what it is. Too bad. I still think that Wine has absolutely nothing to do with that decision. Blaming the lack of ports on Wine is sloppy reasoning.

The fact that I have over 300 Linux games in my library tells me that some people see a market.

Yes but its the same three companies which is great as i said back to my original point you are never going to get Bethesda/Ea or Activision games because they do not see the value you may say fuckem but they have big franchises that people want to play. Good for you I have over 500 steam games from my windows days I can play a total of 70 under linux native steam client. I am not a huge fan of indie games so they are mainly triple A games there are some exceptions but have a lot of EA/Activision and Bethesda titles.

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mmm looks a lot like the age of games and 0 AD yeah on the wishlist until the linux port is out.

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Quoting: ShmerlBeing a leader makes concerns of lock-in only stronger. Leaders which lock out competition become monopolists.

Then tell your beloved GOG to make some improvements.I would love to see that to,i want Witcher3 on Linux,Witcher 1 and Card Game and Adventure one too,which they support Mac and Windows.(except Witcher 3). Oh also i want to see client which is available for Mac and Windows.

You're all but talking,Gog does nothing.So if you can't accept this fact,there is no point of talking.

Valve is the pioneer of Linux gaming so far,so why not Gog take a step in this world?Ohh,wait.You're right.We're not profitable.That's not Valve thinks anyway.Thank you Valve.

Wait Valve are the pioneers of linux gaming how old are you like 10 it was actually ID that pioneered triple A gaming on linux back in the day and then after that Loki then it went dead for a long time and then valve came along they did not pioneer they merely picked up from where others left off.

I m talking about now.Anybody who is not blind can see this fact.

How are they pioneering they are a store front they make linux more visable sure i ll give you that one but that is to help them as much as it is to help the community.

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