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Quoting: ShabbyXMaybe they used to have a whole distro with every irrelevant lib and app installed, then went and trimmed that. Like I think LibreOffice is installed by default on many distros, but obviously the deck doesn't need that.

It's Arch, it doesn't have anything "irrelevant" preinstalled.

It's not Arch. It's SteamOS, which is arch-based. It can, and likely will, have plenty of "irrelevant" libraries, since Valve will no doubt be thinking of use-cases we have no sight of just yet. It could be literally crammed full of what we'd consider to be irrelevant baggage.

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I just can't believe that they a) they didn't test b) they pushed on a Friday and then, the final nail c) they did absolutely nothing about it all weekend. Incompetent.

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I think I've explained the position pretty well here. As I say, if you can't understand this, you either don't understand the industry issues (such as redistribution rights, copyright, etc), or you're being deliberately obstinate because you feel your "rights" are being infringed, or some such.

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I'm normally really supportive of even the worst Humble Choice months... but this is honestly the worst Choice bundle I've ever seen. The "star" of the show is presumably Mordhau, a game with a reputation for its toxic community... nope.

I'll pass this month, which I think is my first pass this year, actually, so I can't complain too hard.

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Quoting: torkel104I just found out about this dev's anti-consumer practices which made me lose all interest in this game

Are you referring to the fact that GeForce Now put Hinterland's game up on their platform without a written agreement? I guess, technically, you can say it's "anti-consumer". But Nvidia were in the wrong here, not Hinterland. This would be like Netflix just putting a Disney film on their service and then people getting mad at Disney when they pull it. Sure, get mad, I guess, but this is how consumerism works, obviously.

How were Nvidia in the wrong here, though?

How weren't they? They didn't have permission.

Permission for what? It's none of the devs business where I play my game. I could launch it here on my desktop PC and stream it via Remote Play to my old Laptop.

It's the same exact thing with Geforce Now. I launch MY GAME from MY ACCOUNT, just on a remote PC.

A remote PC you own. Via a service (Steam) that the developer has granted rights to distribution for. Neither is true of GeForce Now.

If you can't see that, you're being obstinate. And I get it. I'm not arguing that the consumer loses out here. But if you truly can't see why Nvidia is in the wrong here, you're just not being realistic.

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Quoting: hummer010

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: torkel104I just found out about this dev's anti-consumer practices which made me lose all interest in this game

Are you referring to the fact that GeForce Now put Hinterland's game up on their platform without a written agreement? I guess, technically, you can say it's "anti-consumer". But Nvidia were in the wrong here, not Hinterland. This would be like Netflix just putting a Disney film on their service and then people getting mad at Disney when they pull it. Sure, get mad, I guess, but this is how consumerism works, obviously.

How were Nvidia in the wrong here, though?

How weren't they? They didn't have permission.

Yeah, the grey area here is that GeForce Now don't sell you games. They link through to your Steam, GoG or Epic accounts and then you can play those games via their service. But the problem with this is that the experience is therefore linked to GeForce Now - if they offer a terrible experience, that reflects on the game being played, and since the developers didn't even know it was happening, you potentially get this weird situation where bugs are being reported for a platform that neither the developer, nor the player can affect.

It's utterly baffling that Nvidia didn't ask permission for this up front. Just... baffling.

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Quoting: torkel104I just found out about this dev's anti-consumer practices which made me lose all interest in this game

Are you referring to the fact that GeForce Now put Hinterland's game up on their platform without a written agreement? I guess, technically, you can say it's "anti-consumer". But Nvidia were in the wrong here, not Hinterland. This would be like Netflix just putting a Disney film on their service and then people getting mad at Disney when they pull it. Sure, get mad, I guess, but this is how consumerism works, obviously.

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Quoting: EMO GANGSTERI love the game and I own it but why is this still in Alpha it came out in 2013

It's not in Alpha, by any stretch. They just stuck with the terminology for some reason. Still, 8 years of continual updates - incredible commitment. I know quite a few dev outfits that would have put out A16 four years ago and drawn a line under it. Indeed, thanks to the legal fiasco that occurred when Tell Tale went under, it's still A16 you'll get on the Xbox and PS4.

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Quoting: ixnariI'm excited to play the 1.0 release, but considering this game is still in alpha after all these years, I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever get to play it.

Every alpha since A14 has been a 1.0 release for me. So A20 is like 1.6. It's an amazing game that they just keep adding more to.

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Quoting: oldrocker99I once saw the "sweaty guy deciding between two buttons" meme with

"GOG: DRM-free games from a company that seemingly doesn't give two shits about Linux gaming."

"STEAM: DRM-filled games from a company that actively promotes Linux gaming."

That's not a "sweaty guy" decision for me. Especially when I realise that not all Steam games actually have DRM. I guess we're all different though, which is no bad thing.

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