Quoting: callcifer

Quoting: scaineI'm properly delighted to hear that they're supporting Linux. I'm just gutted that, along with City Skylines, Tropico and nearly every Warhammer tactical/strategy game ever, I won't be part of the support effort.

Really gutted. But I'll bet for every sale of this franchise, there's a 100 people that are gutted when the next FPS or RPG/Action title launches natively.

Them's the breaks, I suppose. Can't support everyone.

Famous poet John Lydgate: "You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all the people all of the time"... god we're so fickle, eh? :)

I've read your post 4 times now and I still have no idea what you are talking about. What "support effort"? Why are you gutted? I'm really confused :)

I like to support developers who support Linux. But I just can't bring myself to play this genre of games. I bought Stellaris in the hope that I could get into it, but it's just not for me.

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I honestly can't be bothered to respond to that kind of negativity, except to point out that a) Skyrim is the 15th best selling game of all time. It's the fifth best-selling on PC. And b) I enjoyed it hugely, sinking around 130 hours into it over multiple playthroughs.

It's basically all the things I said, plus fun. It's a shame to hear it didn't live up to certain people's unrealistic hopes and dreams, but even as cynical as I am, I still enjoy an ambitious, generally well executed game, despite its obvious flaws.

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I'm properly delighted to hear that they're supporting Linux. I'm just gutted that, along with City Skylines, Tropico and nearly every Warhammer tactical/strategy game ever, I won't be part of the support effort.

Really gutted. But I'll bet for every sale of this franchise, there's a 100 people that are gutted when the next FPS or RPG/Action title launches natively.

Them's the breaks, I suppose. Can't support everyone.

Famous poet John Lydgate: "You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all the people all of the time"... god we're so fickle, eh? :)

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Quoting: mos

Quoting: scaineThis was one of the first few games that made me "wow" at the potential future of PC games. Free-roaming, first person, RPG progression with quests, guilds and more. Amazing freedom. Obviously, the game kind of suffered as a result - I remember often wondering what the hell I was meant to do next! In fact, I got that feeling quite a lot in Morrowind too, I think. It wasn't until Oblivion that they made the primary quest more prominent.

Great to see this get the same kind of love that Morrowind has enjoyed with OpenMR [External Link] though.

what Bethesda has been getting away with through the years is amazing... The signature abysmal face models have even made it into Oblivion IIRC? But the main problem is shoddy incoherent gameplay - judging mostly based on extensive hours spent in Morrowind. You can't base a 100+ hrs sprawling game on atmosphere alone. Yet that what they do. Oh and have we mentioned BUGS yet?))

I dunno. You say "getting away with through the years", like they're utterly dropping the ball somehow. And yet, no other developer is making games like this. Total freedom. First person. Massive RPG mechanic. Engaging side quests. Believable worlds.

Their vision is gigantic. So, sure, some gamers, myself included, cut them a massive amount of slack. And of course, mods can fix almost any sin.

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Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: scaineGreat to see this get the same kind of love that Morrowind has enjoyed with OpenMR [External Link] though.

Sorry to be that guy, but it's OpenMW. :P

Ooof. I was two cans of Punk down when I wrote that. Forgive me my mortal sins! :)

Edit: At least I LINKED to OpenMW! Phew!

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This was one of the first few games that made me "wow" at the potential future of PC games. Free-roaming, first person, RPG progression with quests, guilds and more. Amazing freedom. Obviously, the game kind of suffered as a result - I remember often wondering what the hell I was meant to do next! In fact, I got that feeling quite a lot in Morrowind too, I think. It wasn't until Oblivion that they made the primary quest more prominent.

Great to see this get the same kind of love that Morrowind has enjoyed with OpenMR [External Link] though.

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Quoting: ModanungBlasphemy!

There's something about that klu klux knight which tells me to stay away from this title. :S:

Yeah, that hat... holy cow. The imagery is really hard to see past, eh?

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Ah, dammit! Look at how beautiful the animations are, but it's all just a pixely blur! No!

I can't play games like. Not since Teleglitch put me off them forever.

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I actually skipped last December's Humble Choice [External Link] because I didn't want this game getting my money (and I was buying Tomb Raider separately anyway)... and now here they doing a Linux version? Great news!

I love this style of game (mad Salt 'n' Sanctuary fan, remember? ), so pretty much an insta-buy when they get the Linux version out of the door.

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Quoting: austin1985

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Kimyrielle

Quoting: Liam DaweSo people having another way/option to play games, while on Linux, is now not good news? Madness. I get not wanting to use it but it's an option and for many, a good one to play games that were previously impossible.

If you don't like it, don't read it or just filter it out in your profile settings. It's as if people just want to moan at this point and it's not productive for anyone.

It's not that I couldn't get behind the reasoning "If it can be played on Linux we'll cover it." I don't think that's the issue why some people find covering Stadia here a bit odd. It's more because covering Stadia but not other streaming services avaialble for Linux and not great new Windows games that have, say, at least a Gold rating on ProtonDB seems to be a very arbitrary decision. If playing on Stadia is gaming on Linux, so is playing Windows games on Linux with Proton. I don't get why one is covered and the other is not.

I get the idea that GoL is your blog and you can write about whatever you and whenever you want, including writing about the weather if you so chose. But you can't really be surprised that if your selection criteria are that arbitrary, people might wonder why?

I'm repeating myself now: Stadia is supported, games are specifically ported and supported onto Stadia by both the developer and Google - and that's an important point. You can't even remotely say the same about Proton (yet? we don't know what the end goal is for Proton). That said, I do cover every single Proton update without fail and only just recently talked directly about Streets of Rage 4 and Street Fighter V got a dedicated video.

As I also stated earlier, I have previously covered other streaming services and I will continue to do so as and when they come up. Currently though, there is no other major streaming service that's supported on Linux.

And yes, some of it is an arbitrary decision. I cover things based a lot on personal interest, hence very little visual novel coverage here for example.

I would like to add that Google is the only one currently that can pull it off. Yes Nvidia is trying and Sony and all of them, but honestly Google is the only one who has the infrastructure and the finance to back up such a project at this current time. That is my humble opinion of course, yours may differ.

I'm pretty sure that Valve will have a crack at this too. Less pressing for them though, so maybe they can afford to wait and see how much traction Stadia gets before committing serious resources to it.

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