Regarding Mono, I see no problem with it being used for already proprietary games, especially ones that were originally geared to the XBLA. That being said, I am still leery of it being used in free software programs.

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Quoting: AnonymousOk, I'm done trying to reason. It's just not getting through. So let's try this.

You are changing exactly what with you strategy here?

Quoting: AnonymousYou obviously don't like wine, well neither do I.

Who says we don't like Wine? This has nothing to do with having an aversion with any particular piece of software.

Quoting: AnonymousI don't want to have to use it, but it's not like we have any choice at the moment until more native releases come out.

Again, we were not criticizing you for that, even if I personally disagree with the notion.

Quoting: AnonymousSo, having the number of people running the OS is what matters, NOT what they're resorting to in order to get games to work.

No, what matters is the potential market that developers can reach by supporting Linux. If it is already being catered to by Wine then the developers behind the game being played through Wine have no real motivation to support the actual platform Wine is running on any more than they already do by releasing Windows binaries. If that counts as Linux for Steam, why not for them?

Quoting: AnonymousIf the industry's perception of linux is that there aren't that many of us, and in fact our numbers are dropping as the article says, then things will only get worse.

Doing tricks to inflate the numbers is not going help though. Does it really matter who's buying Windows software and running it on Linux? The numbers are only useful for showing developers the size of the actual Linux market. If you are not happy with the size of that market fine, but trying to artificially inflate the numbers is not going to help matters, or help Valve's case that there is an actual native Linux market to be catered to.

Such numbers are not entirely useless though, which is why it would be interesting to see a Wine category added to the survey. That being said, I would suspect it would probably be quite a bit smaller than you may imagine.

Quoting: AnonymousAll I have ever said, and this isn't some insane idea as you folks keep trying to make it out as: if I'm using linux as my OS, my OS should be reported as linux.

Even when you are using Windows? Because that is what Wine is, a Windows environment. Good, bad, that is what it is. It is not the same as running a game on Linux with the Linux version of Steam.

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Quoting: SabunHahaha, I play games to enjoy them. I know for some, fun = challenging. For me, it's just mucking about and learning the story :)

Yeah, in general I lean that way as well.

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Their developers comment frequently on their Desura pages and tend to answer inquiries.

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Quoting: sobkasDevelopers expressed some interest by including Linux in beta test forms

Ah okay, I just got impression that this was just based on some random inquiries without any actual encouragement from the developers at all. I will shut my mouth then.

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Definitely something I want to get in time when I have the money to spare. It is very nice to see a fairly high profile Desura release. ^_^

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I would have thought Steamworks would have worked out such wrinkles. Isn't that supposed to be the whole point, other than the DRM component?

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As far as I can determine the already ported Ankh games are a given, since Runesoft's developers already mentioned applying fixes to them that they discovered when working on Jack Keane. The ones that have yet to be ported are still up in the air at this point I believe.

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Considering there never was any interest expressed, is this really surprising?

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Added a link the Humble Bundle website since you seemed to have forgot Liam. ;)

I will probably find a way to purchase this one, since I did enjoy Psychonauts and it does fit my terms. Brutal Legends needing Steamworks for multiplayer is not a deal breaker, as I can at least play the game DRM free offline. I also see on your Twitter feed that they are releasing new builds of Psychonauts with this one, which is great news, although I assume previous purchasers would have access to it regardless.

I am a little disappointed that The Cave did not get a DRM free debut with this one though.

EDIT: Yes, HIB5 purchasers get the update. :)

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