I will definitely be buying this day one from their page. I get wanting it available on a store like GOG, so all your games are in one place instead of all over, but this works for me as well and should give the developer more of the profit.

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I'm glad they aren't trying to push it as default until it is more mature. Projects always tend to do this on Linux and the users are expected to live through the buggy transition, I feel like we are always in constant beta.

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No trackpoint and the keyboard looks awful. Also Nvidia on a Linux system is a hell I don't wish to revisit.

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Great game, tons of fun especially over LAN. GOG version works great and is up to date. If I could make one complaint it's that the early game is very challenging, then it gets easy the further you go, until you reach one of the very hard bosses.

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That's great, game looks fun, but I wish they would also release on a DRM-free store.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyAt this point I'm not sure what you're complaining about--are you saying that it's DRM if you can't download the game again from a company that's gone under?

No, I am saying that it is DRM if you cannot install and play a game you already have a copy of without authorizing it with a 3rd party server.

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Quoting: torhamespecially since they will shutdown their servers at some point.

You only need to login once, you can continue to play offline if the servers shutdown. I verified it a little while ago, the offline mode kicks in after 10 seconds of no response from the server.

If you need to reinstall or lose your game files for any reason you will need to reauthenticate before playing, you may need to do this for a number of reasons. For most users this will be a problem, since most do not keep proper game backups and may not know how to restore old game files. Personally, I'm not willing to encourage this behavior by developers. I hope they will remove this limitation in the future.

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Quoting: torhamB2P

Quoting: torhamThe fact that you have a copy of the game verifies that you bought the game.

That doesn't mean much, it's the same deal with Minecraft. You could have acquired a copy of the game from a friend you want to play with. However since this is not a subscription based service (where you can download it free but need to pay monthly to play), you need to verify in some way that you did indeed buy it at some point, and logging in with an account is the least invasive option in my opinion.

Of course it's still possible to play the game without actually paying, and for that the account authentication also does nothing, as I know the game has been cracked. Few games are able to avoid this and it usually requires draconian measures.

Myself, I'm happy to login once to download the game after paying, but I don't want to be stuck asking if I can install/run it forever, especially since they will shutdown their servers at some point.

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Quoting: torhamNot without reaching out . . . but for all the games I play, the reaching out doesn't have to be successful. So like, you have to have the Steam client on your computer (although there's probably a workaround for that), but it does not have to successfully phone home. If I have no internet connection and start a Steam game, it tries to contact Steam, then whines that it couldn't and grumpily asks if I want to play in offline mode.
I'm not clear that you can really call that DRM--it doesn't enforce anything.

The Steam client is definitely a lighter DRM solution than some others, though I still consider it DRM since you must always use it to install your game, installing the game is not possible without the client and Steam's servers. Each time you want to install the game you must ask Steam for permission. The only alternative would be to install it once, and then attempt to package it up yourself for later installs. This is possible, but undocumented and outside of what most people could do. Anyway, this is all somewhat off-topic since Vintage Story has a custom DRM.

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Quoting: wytrabbit

Quoting: torham

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Quoting: torhamLast I looked this game had pretty annoying DRM

I bought it in 2020 and don't remember any DRM back then. Can you elaborate?

From what I recall you need to create an account and login when installing the game and then authenticate with their servers each time you want to play the game.

That's not exactly DRM, your account verifies you bought the game. It would be the same if you wanted to play a B2P game on Steam but you need to log in first on the Steam client. Yes it's still required.

I disagree, any required connection to a 3rd party server after the game has been obtained is DRM. The fact that you have a copy of the game verifies that you bought the game. Additional checks are the definition of DRM, and will make the game uninstallable and/or unplayable once the auth servers are shutdown. This is why it is important to split downloading and installing of the game into separate stages.

Not sure what a B2P game is, but yes the Steam client is also a DRM implementation because you cannot install or play your game without reaching out to 3rd party servers for permission.

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