Crazy Taxi works flawlessly out of the box with Proton. Can't remember where, but I got my copy for free years ago.

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Quoting: x_wingWell, today I was reading about refund policies for Windows OEM and end up reading Microsoft EULA:

The EU law did at one point state that you can't be required to accept all parts of a package deal and can return parts of it, provided that you can't obtain a part of the the package otherwise. There was a case of a french woman who managed to refund her OEM license, and soon after Dell started the Developer edition, to show that you can buy their laptops(at least the non-gaming ones) without a Windows license.

To put that into human words: if you can't buy the same product without Windows, you might be able to get it refunded.

So, basically, in the EU you can buy the notebook you want without having to worry about getting the version that comes without Windows (if available). Wish my country worked that way...

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Quoting: GuestHuh...so are google, M$, Sony and Nintendo gonna get a slap on the wrist too? oh right, they dont even give the benefit of refund therefore they don't have to get fined due to giving a worse service.

Well, today I was reading about refund policies for Windows OEM and end up reading Microsoft EULA:

By accepting this agreement or using the software, you agree to all of these terms, and consent to the transmission of certain information during activation and during your use of the software as per the privacy statement described in Section 3. If you do not accept and comply with these terms, you may not use the software or its features. You may contact the device manufacturer or installer, or your retailer if you purchased the software directly, to determine its return policy and return the software or device for a refund or credit under that policy. You must comply with that policy, which might require you to return the software with the entire device on which the software is installed for a refund or credit, if any.

So, if you're lucky enough, you can actually get a Microsoft refund for an OEM key you never used on your computer. The ugly part is that it could also mean that the manufacturer could decide to ask you to return the whole computer. Maybe in first world countries you can refund the key... would be nice to know if this refund policy works in the EU.

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Quoting: jensVery cool, purchased from Feral Store.
I hope there will be many more games from Feral, but considering how Steam Play gets of the ground I fear this is already one of their latest games released for Linux.

With the current state of GPU market and the bad performance of proton with newest AAA games (yesterday read that a 1070ti was getting 39fps on high with Shadow of Tomb Raider with proton) I believe that Feral has nothing to worry about out of reduce a little more release dates difference between Linux/Mac and Windows versions.

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Quoting: x_wing

Quoting: GuestFor the love of god.... Oh well time to sell some organs i guess.

I know that pain... but I can't stop. Also, humans can live with half liver, don't we?

Think the liver is the only organ that grows back.

Than means that I can sell it several times? How long it takes to grow back? Well, with such new my credit problems may be solved :P

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Quoting: GuestFor the love of god.... Oh well time to sell some organs i guess.

I know that pain... but I can't stop. Also, humans can live with half liver, don't we?

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Quoting: F.UltraJust don't understand how it could be a mesa problem since I had the same version (18.0.7) on 16.04 where it worked and in 18.04 when it didn't. Then of course those mesa:s could have been compiled differently (one was padoka and the other was Ubuntu stock) which could explain some of it but still...

Best would perhaps be to set up a vm to run DL (if there exists graphic drivers in VM:s these days that are powerfull enough to atleast make the game start) and then incremetnally try each version of glibc between the version from 16.04 up to where it breaks in order to see which patch (if the problem lies in glibc) that makes the game crash. Could be quite some time consuming task though since compiling glibc is probably not a small task.

Yes, that's a lot of work. I remember attaching gdb to the game process and checking that the crash was due a segmentation fault. Weird things is that the blow up was outside Mesa nor glibc (As far I remember) and in a very high memory position (can't remember if the pointer was on that position or if the stack was there).

If I have the time I'll try to run with my system-wide Mesa (padoka stable) and share the stack trace. Also, if padoka stable gets updated this week, I'll check if starts working with that version.

One final mention: I'm using KDE Neon, but it's basically Ubuntu 18.04.

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Quoting: x_wing

Quoting: pete910Wonder if this will fix Dying light for non *butu users ?

And before anyone chimes in with " you just need to add..." They don't work!

DL wasn't working on Ubuntu 18.04 with Mesa 18.1, but using Mesa 18.2RC made it work (for me and many others, I think). So, try to test it and share your results.

I thought the problem with DL was with the new version of glibc?

I heard the same and also thinked that as I found out that the game wasn't working anymore when upgrading to Ubuntu 18.04. Nevertheless, I compiled my self Mesa drivers and made it work (last time I tested I used Mesa 18.02RC3). Not sure if it's glibc the problem, you can see others making it work here: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/901n3l/dying_light_crashing_to_desktop/ [External Link]

About getting the command that Steam runs before starting a game, just set as game start parameters: echo %command%

Worth mention: steam sets a lot of environment variables that let's the steamlib to start (from your user name to game information). You may want to create an script that prints the environment for you (I say this because I assume that you want to run from a terminal "without" steam in the middle, so you must create the env in order to make it work)

EDIT: Also I need to mention that if you want to simply preload glibc on your system, you will be forced to also preload the lib loader (you can find it on /lib/x86-linux-gnu/ld-X.XX.so). The problem with this idea is that older versions of glibc will probably not work with libs linked against a more modern version. This means that you'll be forced to add all your system dependencies linked against this old version. In others words: you may want to create a new libs hierarchy of your target system (maybe docker can help here) and use chroot in order to start using this new hierarchy (of course this is not trivial and will get you some headaches...).

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Quoting: pete910Wonder if this will fix Dying light for non *butu users ?

And before anyone chimes in with " you just need to add..." They don't work!

DL wasn't working on Ubuntu 18.04 with Mesa 18.1, but using Mesa 18.2RC made it work (for me and many others, I think). So, try to test it and share your results.

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Quoting: liamdaweUpdate: OpenGL

No Linux problem but I'm wondering if such games still run under MacOS after Apple completely stops support for OpenGL? It is already discontinued and only a question of time until OpenGL is completely omitted.

Apple deprecated OpenGL, which doesn't mean that they doesn't support the API on their current platforms. I doubt they will completely remove the API in the short term, there is a lot of software that still uses it.

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