Quoting: ageres

Quoting: BeamboomI try avoiding to do more "custom modifications" to my system than absolutely necessary.

Proton-GE doesn't affect the OS, it's just one folder Steam uses to create another folder with a game's wineprefix. Delete it, and it's gone. I also use Boxtron for playing DOS games on Steam, quite handy.

That's true, of course.
But it is still another additional step to do when the goal should always be to reduce the amount of steps one has to do.

Not that it can be helped much, given the nature of ProtonGE.

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Quoting: ageresThere is proton-ge-custom-updater [External Link] that checks if an update is available, downloads it, unpacks and delete the downloaded archive.

That's really helpful!

What's the relation between GE and Valve? I really do wonder why some of these fixes are in GE but not the official Proton.

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: Perkeleen_VittupääWhat's good too, is that it's not an actual kernel driver with root permissions?

This driver seems running in user mode so it thinks it is in the kernel, but actually in a user mode process.

It can also be seen as bad. This effectively means that EAC is being kept happy while it's not being able to what is happening on the system. If it is now possible to create some sort of cheat outside of wine, then it would essentially an exploit. If this is possible on Linux, it would be possible on Windows as well. At best EAC would try to fix that. At worst, they decide that they might switch to more drastic options. While it's pretty cool that they managed it this far, I'm still not hopeful for the future.

I feel the same.
From a technical perspective, this is pretty amazing.
But it really doesn't solve the problem in a way that would make EAC happy, does it? It isn't hard to imagine Wine keeping EAC happy, while you run something else neither Wine nor EAC has access to on your machine.
In the end, it would probably only serve to increase the pressure on anti-cheat devs to either fully support or fully block Linux.

And I don't think any of us would like the result of that decision, at least not at the current market share.

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Quoting: PatolaSo... Aspyr is alive? Aspyr, where's my Borderlands 2 & The Pre-Sequel High Resolution pack, and that DLC?

It is still very much alive.
In your hopes and dreams ;)

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Quoting: g000hDon't think your point holds weight *because* cheating is easy on Windows. Almost all the cheating tools are built to work on Windows. It would be harder for me as a Linux gamer to find cheats to use on Linux. Sure, someone could make Linux better for cheating, but the status is that it isn't a great cheating platform unless you build the cheats yourself rather than take advantage of all the cheats already built for Windows.

You are confusing cause and effect.
That you can find more cheats and tools for Windows is exclusively down to the fact that 99% of gamers are on Windows. Writing some tools to edit hex values while a game is in RAM isn't easier on Windows, it's the same on pretty much any platform.
Same with editing game-specific dynamic libraries, inspecting/inserting network packages, and all the other ways to cheat.

It just wouldn't make sense to write some cheating tool for Linux as it wouldn't really be used by anyone. There already aren't too many gamers on Linux, and (potential) cheaters are an even smaller subset of that.

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Quoting: g000hI get quite irritated by the fact that the likes of Garry Newman and Tim Sweeney and other game developers suggest that the approx 1% Linux gaming market-share would in any way influence the amount of cheaters on their games.

Statistically speaking, if 10% of Linux users were cheating, then that is 10% of the 1% population, i.e. 0.1% of gamers. Comparatively, if you have 10% Windows users cheating, then that is 10% of the 99% population, i.e. 9.9% of the gamers. Even if every Linux gamer was cheating (*ridiculous*) then that would only amount to a max of 1% of the population.

If I as a Windows user would want to cheat, and it were hard on Windows and easy on Linux, I might just dual boot. I guess that's what they're fearing, not the 0.whatever%.

That's also how I understand it.
They don't think Linux users are cheaters, but are afraid easy cheating might lure cheaters to use Linux for their goals.

With which they do have a point.

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Quoting: tuubidoes restricting chat abuse make the game experience significantly worse for anyone? Does it make the game less approachable for their target market? If not, I don't see why Valve should care. If this "spicy banter" isn't what makes the game enjoyable for the general player base and attracts new players, this move is a good one.

The problem is that censorship generally starts out as something "innocent" and well-meaning. But never stays that way.
At the beginning, people might only want to censor some generally accepted racist (accepted as in, yes, everyone agrees this is racist) terms.
But then, slowly, or faster (who knows), more and more censorship will seep in as soon as anyone gets their precious feefees hurt by whatever "evil word" offends them for whatever reasons on any given day.
Fast forward, and you'll get words banned that are in no way offensive to any majority of the userbase and soon the only words being allowed in chat are "flower" and "love", but only if you kindly ask everyone's permission beforehand. At this point, why even have a chat?
A tiny minority, which isn't even playing the game, just raising a stink on Twitter etc., ends up dictating a majority of the actual playerbase what they can or cannot say. Doesn't sound very reasonable or logical to me.

Just look at the recent nonsense happening with Github renaming "master" to whatever, because apparently the word master itself cannot be said anymore, no matter the context (bad news for anyone who has a master's degree like my GF, their degree is now racist, or who accomplished mastery of some skill)...
Or that desaster in Visual Studio Code when the Santa symbol was removed from an innocent celebration of Christmas time, because a single user found it offensive for the most absurd reasons with which barely anyone agreed.
Again, a tiny minority dictating the majority what is or isn't acceptable.

In this climate, I wouldn't trust anyone, least of all people in the PR or media business, to make any reasonable decision in the matter. Because currently, the name of the game is bend to knee to whoever is crying the loudest about being offended on social media - except for the actual userbase.
Better to not even let them gain a single foot in the door whenever it can be avoided. Even if that means having to defend stupid insults.
I rather have stupid insults than a thought and word police.

Quoting: tuubiYou don't need to play this game if you just want to trade insults. The Internet is full of venues for that sort of thing.

Banter is part of the game, believe it or not.
If someone doesn't want it, they can disable the chat, just like what you can do with voice chats.

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Quoting: PatolaWhat other "reverse horror" games (where you are the villain) do you guys like? I particularly love Attack of the Earthlings [External Link] and the Overlord [External Link] series.

Overlord was awesome. The seal clubbing alone was hilariously over-the-top. Took some getting over myself to get that sweet XP.

There's also Stubbs The Zombie, which was awesome, but unfortunately not successful at all.

Another, actually very dark game, would be Manhunt.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyIt's believed by many investigators that the massacres in Rwanda were to a fair extent enabled by media like talk radio routinely calling the other ethnic group various stuff like cockroaches and whatnot, dehumanizing them and making it psychologically "OK" to kill them. Not that there wasn't other stuff going on, but that had a big impact.

Are you aware the topic is some random insults in heated moments in online game chats, not real hate-speech, systemic persecution or actual calls to violence, etc.?
The latter things have always been forbidden and people who did that have always been quickly banned, at least as far back as I remember (back when Counter-Strike was new).
And the former has never lead to the latter ones, as it is always some infantile venting while the latter ones require an actual motivation and ideology behind them.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyI was bullied in school. A lot. I was chased around and beaten up routinely by groups of 4 to 6, although not that thoroughly 'cause it wasn't that tough a school (and often they failed to catch me 'cause I ran fast). And I was insulted constantly and socially ostracized. I gave as good as I got there. So as someone with extensive experience of the physical and the verbal side . . . if you could have somehow subtracted one entirely, just leaving the other, well, I won't say it's an easy or slam-dunk choice but I'd probably get rid of the verbal rather than the physical. So I don't find people convincing when they say words are nothing and should just be ignored. Or that verbal abuse is fun.

Well, kids and teens can be cruel, that's not exactly news.
But what does bullying at school, which is always very focused on a few unlucky individuals which happen to have the wrong face/color/name/body/accent/whatever, have to do with forbidding people to vent and sling some insults in an online chat?
If someone would be followed around by the same group of people online, with them constantly harassing that person, that would be a comparable case. But given the nature of matchmaking in these games, that isn't something that could even happen.

Sucks for you that your experience makes you unable to deal with even the slightest forms of verbal abuse in the form of "kaka-language", but this isn't true for most people who actually play these games and there is therefore no need to censor anything or restrict anyone playing these games.
If some real racists, etc. turn up in these games and start letting their nonsensical views loose, they are generally identified and dealt with quickly, but some frustrated venting or spicy banter has nothing to do with that.

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Quoting: GuestThe demo worked on a potato and is fun to play.

My traveling laptop is more of a lemon, do you think it will work on that as well?

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