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Canonical are now saying Ubuntu's 32bit is not being entirely dropped, 32bit libraries will be "frozen"
24 June 2019 at 11:29 am UTC

Gryxx
Nevertheless
x_wing
Luke_NukemI just purged all *386 libs from my install, including Steam. Then installed Steam via flatpak...

No. Issues. At. All.

But this doesn't solve HumbleBumble or GOG. Though I do seem to recall and automated GOG->flatpak creator?

And what about proton games? Do they work without problems?

I have no problems at all.
So, how you can install games to non-system drive? As i recall, flatpak Steam is isolated from the rest of OS. You cannot go out of flatpak's file system.

EDIT: Without changing location of Steam, of course. For example leave Steam (and some games) on SSD and keep rest of them on two separate HDD drives.

You can do it with a flatpak override like described here:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1086529/how-to-give-a-flatpak-app-access-to-a-directory

or you can mount partitions into the packages folder.

Canonical are now saying Ubuntu's 32bit is not being entirely dropped, 32bit libraries will be "frozen"
24 June 2019 at 5:58 am UTC Likes: 2

Luke_NukemI just purged all *386 libs from my install, including Steam. Then installed Steam via flatpak...

No. Issues. At. All.

But this doesn't solve HumbleBumble or GOG. Though I do seem to recall and automated GOG->flatpak creator?

Look here ->
https://twitter.com/jjardon/status/1143032412361773056?s=20

Canonical are now saying Ubuntu's 32bit is not being entirely dropped, 32bit libraries will be "frozen"
24 June 2019 at 1:02 am UTC Likes: 2

x_wing
Luke_NukemI just purged all *386 libs from my install, including Steam. Then installed Steam via flatpak...

No. Issues. At. All.

But this doesn't solve HumbleBumble or GOG. Though I do seem to recall and automated GOG->flatpak creator?

And what about proton games? Do they work without problems?

I have no problems at all.

Canonical are now saying Ubuntu's 32bit is not being entirely dropped, 32bit libraries will be "frozen"
24 June 2019 at 12:57 am UTC Likes: 2

Luke_NukemI just purged all *386 libs from my install, including Steam. Then installed Steam via flatpak...

No. Issues. At. All.

But this doesn't solve HumbleBumble or GOG. Though I do seem to recall and automated GOG->flatpak creator?

True! Though it is possible to install and play GOG games via "Install non Steam game" function in flatpak Steam - even Windows GOG games via Proton. Not the perfect solution, but works!

Canonical are now saying Ubuntu's 32bit is not being entirely dropped, 32bit libraries will be "frozen"
24 June 2019 at 12:34 am UTC

gurv
abelthorneThey said don't want Arch nor Debian.
Source?
They did say they're fed up with Debian tooling but they've not stated they don't want Debian itself.

In my opinion:
  • OpenSuse: tumbleweed is a rolling distro and you don't want that for mainstream. Leap is only supported for 18 months that's way too short

  • Arch based distro: come on, be serious, we're talking mainstream here

  • Clear Linux: nope, rolling and controlled by a company that could shut it down without warning

  • Centos or derived distro: with'ppas', why not. Still controlled by Redhat but Redhat has a good track record unlike Canonical. I still doubt Valve would want to be at the mercy of a company though

  • Debian: most logical choice. Stable and with a really good track record, not vendor-controlled. Main problem is indeed some tooling is really showing its age. Apt was awesome back in the days but it's lackluster nowadays. Maybe Valve can contribute improvements?

  • Ubuntu: Canonical has showed once again they can't be trusted. Going with a derived distro (like PopOs) would still be vulnerable to Canonical nonsense


I repeat myself.. I think they should aim to officially support the Flathub Steam flatpak on at least a set of distros, or provide one themselves. It runs 32bit games on pure 64bit distros without problems.

Canonical are now saying Ubuntu's 32bit is not being entirely dropped, 32bit libraries will be "frozen"
23 June 2019 at 7:52 pm UTC Likes: 1

JaromirMaybe Shuttleworth still plans on a Canonical Initial Public Offering (IPO) in 2019. It would make Ubuntu more attractive if they don't focus on the 32 bit libs but on profitable projects instead.

I think that it's time for Arch, Manjaro, Debian or Fedora to become the new leading OS for the desktop.

And I also like Clear Linux OS as a replacement for Ubuntu because it is generally the fastest system and because you have collaboration potential with Intel. And Clear Linux also works very fast on AMD hardware.

There will be some initial problems with Nvidia drivers and other issues but I think that Clear Linux OS can be a perfect replacement for Ubuntu in the long term.

It will become clearer when Clear Linux adopts KDE Plasma.. .. Holy f.. it already has!
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=clear-linux-kde&num=1

Valve looking to drop support for Ubuntu 19.10 and up due to Canonical's 32bit decision (updated)
23 June 2019 at 4:33 pm UTC Likes: 3

deathxxxIf Valve move to FreeBSD, that will be great! Because BSD is more faster than Linux. Only AMD cards will have no binary drivers, so will force to use Mesa. For Nvidia is OK. PlayStation uses BSD already and we saw how it run.

Oh yes of course! Valve scraps everything they did for Linux (and community) and goes for BSD, turning to the vivid BSD gaming community for support, hoping for engine vendors, hardware vendors, middleware vendors, game developers to support their brand of BSD .. or doing it all themselves, because Canonical stops delivering Linux 32bit libs? I don't think so.

Valve looking to drop support for Ubuntu 19.10 and up due to Canonical's 32bit decision (updated)
22 June 2019 at 1:57 pm UTC

liamdaweInterestingly, Valve are now funding some work on KWin (part of KDE). - Added to the article.

I guess it would be quite easy to officially support the Flathub Steam flatpak, which already minimizes compatibility issues on lots of distros. Maybe Valve could even build a SteamOS flatpak themselves (I guess Snap is out of the contest by now ;-)), to support any distribution with recent enough kernel and drivers, without having to single out one specificially.
What you show us here speaks a different language however. To me this looks like they really seem to be concerned about the Linux desktop.
To fund KDE Plasma software, while using Gnome 3 for SteamOS at the same time is an interesting choice btw...

The perils of crowdfunding for Linux games: Eco edition
17 June 2019 at 5:23 pm UTC Likes: 1

Eike
Mountain ManYou should never pay for an unfinished product. This is just common sense.

Crowd funding made many games possible I bought and loved.

It's all a matter of trust! I know who better not to trust a second time now...

The perils of crowdfunding for Linux games: Eco edition
17 June 2019 at 8:13 am UTC

eldaking
riusma
tonyrhThey are the worst!

At least they had offered refund for bakers when Linux was cancelled. ;)

I didn't know pastries were affected, but at least bakeries had a choice. xD

But seriously, I think offering a refund is not even close to addressing the issue. It is maybe better than getting a game you will never run.

A company gets people to give them money under false pretenses; the money and number of backers are usually displayed in the campaign or in advertisements, misleading other backers; they hold on to the money usually for a long time; and usually the burden of asking for a refund is on the backer. So they take a "fraudulent" zero interest loan, benefit from user engagement for marketing, and they keep the money unless the backer puts in the effort to get it back. They use in bad faith the lax nature of crowdfunding to get away with stuff like this.

Even worse for our cause! They use our will to support our platform, only to turn around and prominently do the opposite.

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