Quoting: Guest

Quoting: einherjarBut these last minute changes did not prevent TW WH3 from running very well on Proton OOTB without special work being done for it.
And forcing shader compile at start is really not that problematic.

Great that it's working for you. Unsupported.

it's okay to disagree. But please don't put things in my mouth that I didn't say.
I did never say it work for me. It works well, and you can check that on ProtonDB. Surely it does not only work for me. And on Steam you also find a lot of Windows gamers complaining about crashes and bad performance. So it seems to not run worse than on Windows.

Quoting: GuestUnsupported

OMG. I said it would be great if it would be supported via Proton and you reply with "Unsupported".

Let's agree to disagree and I am out of this discussion.
Have a nice day.

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Quoting: GuestFrom what I know of such things, there are changes right up to the last minute. And don't forget the stuttering of shader compilation that can happen with using DXVK.

But these last minute changes did not prevent TW WH3 from running very well on Proton OOTB without special work being done for it.
And forcing shader compile at start is really not that problematic.

Quoting: GuestThen add on top that you've just suggested they knowingly release a sub-par experience because "it can be patched later" -

That is a common thing nowadays. TW WH3 is being worked on and if you really want Linux releases to be delayed until the time everything is optimized and nearly bug free - the market will be dead. No one wants to wait for a game that his friends on Windows already play.
Especially if they ask you to play with them in coop.

Quoting: GuestAnd then you keep saying "Proton" like it's a cure-all, which it isn't, and Valve can (and do) change it on a regular basis (making it a running target).

No, I did never say that. It is an existing tech that can be used to achieve the goal of sameday or at least same week releases.
And even if Valve changes things, the prior versions can still be used and optimizations for a special game can be made and also you could ship a game similar to a bottle with the Protonversion you like.
So where exactly is your moving target problem going?

Quoting: GuestThere are reasons that very few games offer official "Proton" support. It might work fine, they might tweak to make it work ok, but how many actually officially support it? That number is less than you might think.

Of course, and the most shining reason is market share.
But if you do a port anyways and use a similar self developed technology instead of the existing one that works already, than your customers have to wait month longer, than the Windows customers....

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Not so impressive at this moment

* 6 verified (3 old AF)
* 10 playable
* 2 not supported
* 45 unknown

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: einherjarIt would be more smart, if they would use Proton tech to manage the compatibility for games.

That way they could sell TW TWH3 from Release day on and do special optimizations.

But hey, they can use their in House tech too, deliver month later and probably without working multiplayer.

"Special optimisations" like....what, exactly?

Don't forget that there is a delay between when the Windows release goes out, and when Feral will receive all the appropriate updates that they can then work on. This is the main source of any delay in release on their part. Feral also have a lot of experience with the way the Total War engine works now, do tweak a lot to make it run quite well on GNU/Linux systems, and they've already proven that if it were up to them then cross-platform multiplayer would work just fine.

As it works OOTB with Proton, they could release it immediately and then do optimizations if needed.

So using the Proton tech would save them lots of time and maintain and optimizations can also be done.

And they will surely get it early enough for testing with Proton.

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It would be more smart, if they would use Proton tech to manage the compatibility for games.

That way they could sell TW TWH3 from Release day on and do special optimizations.

But hey, they can use their in House tech too, deliver month later and probably without working multiplayer.

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After upgrading to a 6800 XT the Index is the next big thing to buy for me.

So go Valve go :-)

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Quoting: TheRiddickCDPR GOG still upset with Linux user base I see. They NEVER did recover from those Witcher2 threats certain extremists made...

If they really judge a whole community and the Steam Deck customers by the misbehavior of a few toxic people, that would be really weird, wouldn't it?

So I think that is more like a pure business decision mixed with rudeness (...just install Windows)

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Hmm, they managed to loose even more of my respect.
But OK, they do not care for Linux or Linux devices with a fixed configuration like the deck.

So I do not care for them. I can spend my money elsewhere I think....

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Feral Interactive who are doing the Linux port have so far ignored our emails asking for information on cross-platform multiplayer in their version, so we fully expect it to not have online play with the Window build.

May be I am naive. But isn't all the tech needed for this open source? Can't they use the proton tech to make their port?

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Quoting: einherjarMy 6800 XT came today. So I will switch to AMD after years of using NVidia - I hope I will not regret that.

Just make sure your kernel and Mesa are up to date. Seeing as you're on Kubuntu, I suggest you take a look at Kisak's Mesa PPA [External Link].

I will switch to Manjaro, to have more recent packages and kernel.
So I also do distro hopping after a long time on Kubuntu.

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