Quoting: MohandevirThing is, judging by the wave of angry comments on the Steam page, 4A Games / Deep Silver seem to have hurt it's Metro fan base. Really bad move to pull it off like that, 2 weeks before release after having built such a hype for it. We now have a full year to discover if it's a good game. Who knows, we might have saved 60$.

It was on #1 of the top sellers on Steam yesterday for a while. Don't know where it was before the announcement, but you could still buy it. Looks like a lot of people quickly bought it, so they can already have it on Steam instead of having to switch to EGS.

For me it's simple: competition is fine, exclusivity is not. There's no reason why they couldn't offer the game on both stores at the same time. That would be competition.

I'll buy it in 2020 on Steam, so that Deep Silver knows where I am as a customer.

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"I'm not going to engage in Internet Drama."

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/ajq4fr/more_details_on_the_wined3d_vulkan_plans_why_dxvk/eexumzp/ [External Link]

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Dribbleondo> TF2 feels like it has no identity, it feels…bland.

Strongly and violently disagree.

I've no doubt plenty will, what games people like is a very subjective thing.

But it already had great vibrant characters 10 years before Overwatch, and they already had shorts about the characters and comics and... hats! Many many hats! :(

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Quoting: Guestim not here for content but for information cuz there is forums and people who are on here share similar interests.

Information IS content.

Quoting: Guestand i don't ahve negative preconceptions for word content but this word makes me feel negative.

No negative preconception - but it makes you feel negative. That seems like a contradiction.

Quoting: Guestwhy can't you use your brain and use different word?? why is everybody the same and uses the same words on internet? content work job??

Because it is content, that is provided.

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Quoting: Guestwhy can't you say if you enjoy our and use word website, and dont use word content?
if you enjoy our website

sorry word content reminds me of all these youtubers who beg people for subscriptions promising new content, it's definitely not positive thing ;/

Content:

In publishing, art, and communication, content is the information and experiences that are directed towards an end-user or audience.[1] Content is "something that is to be expressed through some medium, as speech, writing or any of various arts".[2] Content can be delivered via many different media including the Internet, cinema, television, smartphones, audio CDs, books, e-books, magazines, and live events, such as speeches, conferences, and stage performances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_(media) [External Link]

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Quoting: WorMzyI think it's borked the steam servers, I have a load of pending downloads, but nothing's actually downloading because "content servers unreachable". :(

Enable ipv6?

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: GuestThat mirv guy was told to get his eyes checked for not agreeing. I didn't see it as a joke and asked it to be dropped. It was not.

Now you're just blatantly lying, lol.

There is a history. You're the one who said it.
lol.

Gone far enough. Liam, may I request you clean this up, at your discretion?

I made joke that you don't understand, while I was trying to explain something to you. Now you claim it's about disagreeing on the Proton/Wine issue when it was never about that. lol.

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Quoting: GuestThat mirv guy was told to get his eyes checked for not agreeing. I didn't see it as a joke and asked it to be dropped. It was not.

Now you're just blatantly lying, lol.

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Quoting: Guest...and you know who you are, trying to pass an insult off as a joke is silly. Please drop it.

I didn't insult you. You just didn't get an obvious joke. It's not hard to understand.

And you are the one insulting others now. Great job!

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Quoting: kuhpunkt

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Quoting: GuestStill not sure how this is any better than just firing up Steam itself through wine. I could already "force" a game to use wine that way. And choose various wine settings. And use an up-to-date wine. And it's not limited to Steam games.

But it's annoying to set up. One click solution is the key word. That's the way to attract people that have no idea how to setup Wine and whatnot.

Quoting: GuestSo is this all still just a convenience thing for some people? I don't see that personally. I'm otherwise confused by the sudden excitement and "now game xyz can be played" when it was already possible for quite some time.

Maybe it's just me seeing things a little differently.

If you can't see the convenience factor, you might want to get your eyes checked out :P

And there is a lot of sudden excitement, because things now just work, not just because of Proton, but because of all the building blocks that Valve encouraged, DXVK, FAudio etc, networking issues fixed etc...

Wow, that wasn't condescending at all. Maybe you need to learn how to use your computer better?

How is any of what I said/wrote condescending?

Quoting: GuestI don't find needing a beta version and manually going through options in Steam for each game to use an outdated wine. Against just logging in from one shortcut or another.

That's because at the moment it's just a beta - that doesn't even need you to go through options and all that stuff.

A) re-read your own words. About getting eyes checked. Then consider how you might be coming across.
B) game options must be accessed. See the article for that information.

A) There's a :P - meaning I'm teasing/joking.

B) Only for specific cases, WHICH IS STILL IN BETA

Quoting: GuestThen for future reference: teasing, joking, or poking a bit of fun, are not taken the same way by everyone. Obviously in this case. Let's agree to just forget about that all now?

How could you take it any other way when you saying that you don't see why XYZ has literally nothing to do with eyesight? That doesn't even make sense. It was a joke.

Quoting: GuestOk, still beta, but that doesn't change my original confusion: why the excitement over something that could already be done, and could be done for some time already? If I'm not clear, I honestly don't understand. By similar comparison, it's like people being excited that phone X can do something that all other phones could already do. I don't see what makes it so much more special now.
I suspect this is something that, like the craze of selfies, I'm not destined to understand.

People are excited for several reasons, which you seem to be confusing.

1) Proton is being pushed by Valve, the advancements being done in the past couple of months were huge.

2) Steam is a major platform, that tries to push Linux into mainstream.

3) It is simply much more comfortable to have one click solution, which is the case most of the times. You install Steam, download a game with one click and just press PLAY and the game starts. That is big.

Just because you could do something like this with more effort before doesn't mean it was the better way.

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