I finished the Fallout 4 main campaign last week!
... And, to my surprise, I still want to keep on playing. I totally expected to be done with it now, after all I'm closing in on 300 hours played now - but there's still some hours left in me for that game. Needless to say, I love Fallout.

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Quoting: omer666It is more of a spiritual successor than a "cheap" copy. I mean, is Cities: Skylines a blatant copy of SimCity? Is Road Redemption a cheap Road Rash? Is FIFA a Kick-Off ripoff? Oh I loved Kick-Off so much...

Those mentioned titles are instantly recognisable, though. They got their own looks, own aesthetics. Their own identity (imo). So it's not the fundamental game concept I refer to. This game looks and sounds exactly like another game! If I were shown a video snippet I'd guess it was the PS2 gen version of Wipeout!

Check this video of Wipeout Fusion (PS2);

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqe2SdW2pck [External Link]

It's even the same colour palette!

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Quoting: LinasI would think that the story is copyrightable. Like you cannot just take Harry Potter, rename the character to Harriet Otter, rearrange the events a bit and be done with it. But other than that, yes you could make a post-apocalyptic game that follows the same general recipe, and uses the same gameplay elements (like a computer on the protagonist arm).

That's probably the difference, yeah. Point taken.

And it's not like Wipeout were the first "pod racer" either. Nor the last. Plenty that follows the same general formula (obviously). But this game here is like a cheap Chinese copy of a product! :D
I just find it puzzling. But it's not meant as more than a footnote really.

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Quoting: PatolaYes. Why should anyone be allowed to forbid that and punish them with violence?

lol wtf are you onto here? Violence? Dude?

Quoting: PatolaWe also have dozens of open source game engines which do just that, so much that they even use the original game assets, like OpenRA, OpenMW and others.

To own the original game and import their original assets into a new engine is completely different. It's another complex legal discussion no doubt, but it's nothing to do with plagiarism.

Quoting: PatolaIntellectual property is bullsh*t.

That's a personal opinion and irrelevant for the discussion of legality. I don't discuss the morality here - although I could very well do that too. But that's another discussion. :)

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Quoting: LinasAs long as they are not using the code, or the assets from Wipeout, they are in the clear.

So you're saying that I can make a game with a 60s themed "what if", post-apocalyptic scenario with a "popboy" on the protagonist arm, about vault dwellers exploring the wasteland filled with lawless "raiders" and a faction "The Brotherhood of Iron", seeking out technology for their benefit, and Obsidian can't do anything about it?

Because really, this game is not even *trying* to make a twist on the formula. It's even copying the vehicles being used!

Quoting: LinasBy the same logic SuperTuxCart is plagiarism of Mario Kart, OpenArena is plagiarism of Quake 3, PUBG and Fortnite, Call of Duty and Medal of Honor, etc. World is a better place by not going down this rabbit hole.

It's very difficult to draw a clear line between where "inspired by" ends and "plagiarism" begins. Absolutely. But I personally think this particular game crosses that line.

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Quoting: omer666Yes indeed, but considering Sony isn't going to release a real good Wipeout anytime soon, I am glad that copycat exists.

I don't really understand how they are allowed to, to be honest. How they get away with this. Not plagiarism like this. Even the music sounds like it is like straight from Wipeout!

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Quoting: BeamboomLooks like Nvidia is ramping up their game now that ATI is starting to close in on them.

It took a while to remember what ATI means :D
I wasn't into building computers back then (nor did I have money for it) so this name sounds strange to me, even tho I did have an ATI card when I was a kid

Ah haha that's actually quite funny! I meant to write AMD of course 😂 but yeah I'm definitely showing my age now 🤣👍

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"inspired by"... oh, yeah. The "inspiration" may perhaps be detected if we look real close. :D
Or how about we just call it what it is, "a blatant copycat of"? :D

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Looks like Nvidia is ramping up their game now that ATI is starting to close in on them.

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Quoting: CyrilThey clearly said "no" to that, but you can hope. :tongue:

Yeah I know, but they also said they are experimenting regularly with VR ideas. I still have hope, very much so. Just maybe not very soon.

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