Only Windows and Linux, no Mac. They sure know where money is to be made.

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: F.UltraWhat I did find however was on the Wiki on Metal that Apple announced in 2017 that 148k apps used Metal which is only 9% of the number of apps they have in their app store, so it wasn't like people where rushing out to implement it.

I'm not sure this is a useful percentage. Most apps don't need any 3D API in the first place, right?

Which kinda is on point no?

One of us has a big misunderstanding here. :D Let's find out who.

You said "only 9% of the number of apps they have in their app store" have been using Metal. My point is that this might(!) be 100% of the apps needing a low-level 3D API in the first place. So we can't conclude "it wasn't like people where rushing out to implement it".

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To all those saying that Proton will lead to more native ports one day by raising the Linux user percentage...
It's not only that most Linux users stopped asking for ports.
Ten years ago, we had Windows users actively speaking out against Linux ports.

Quoting: quotI wish companies would start announcing official Proton support. I honestly would trust the stability of that more than most native Linux builds.

Nowadays, we got Linux users actively speaking out against Linux ports.
That's why I'm pessimistic.

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Quoting: F.UltraWhat I did find however was on the Wiki on Metal that Apple announced in 2017 that 148k apps used Metal which is only 9% of the number of apps they have in their app store, so it wasn't like people where rushing out to implement it.

I'm not sure this is a useful percentage. Most apps don't need any 3D API in the first place, right?

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Quoting: BumadarBoth lovely games if you like adventures, going to search for my old cdroms :grin:

I do love adventures, from Infocom and Level 9 over Lucasarts and Sierra, over Daedalic to Wadjet Eye and beyond...

... but not having played Syberia back in the times, I wasn't able to get into it nowadays.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyJolly good!
I do wonder if the gaming side has fed into this--if people aren't finding themselves more able to switch because the answer to "But can I play my games?" is now basically "Yes."
In my case that's actually one of the primary reasons I started following GoL--I concluded that the gaming side was a really key strategic issue for desktop growth more generally.

So you're only here for strategic reasons? ;)

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Quoting: GuestIt's unlikely the small form factor of a steam machine will include better hardware. If you want a beefy console to game at the TV - install arch with the steam-minicompositor so that only steam launches at bootup and then you can play games as if its a console.

I'd consider a machine ten times the size (height) of the Steam Deck still "small form factor". This should be able to contain beefier hardware quite well.

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Quoting: EikeDid you fetch all of that manually from the website? It sometimes took like half a minute for it to display the link(s) for a certain day for me...

I did. I've done data hunting for Liam's tracker before. The trick is to load the results into new tabs so that they can be getting on with loading while you wait for the next link to appear. And to make a cup of tea if it's getting too tedious, of course.

I was opening in tabs as well... but I don't drink tea, so obviously, I couldn't do all of it.

Ah, on the semi-serious side: Where would the trend lines meet?

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Quoting: CatKillerI went back as far as Liam's Steam Tracker does (since some subset of data before then is hinky):

Thanks!
August 2021 was a bad date for my cutoff. :D
Did you fetch all of that manually from the website? It sometimes took like half a minute for it to display the link(s) for a certain day for me...

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Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: EikeAnother question, does somebody have survey results of the last months or years stored? Would be interesting to draw the Mac line as well. :D

Wayback Machine.

Well, that did work!



If it's a trend, it's a new one it seems.
Or I need to dig further down the timeline.

*edit* Fetched some more data, and I don't see a Mac decline between August 2021 (oldest number fetched) and May 2023. Wayback Machine is slow. It must be reading the data from tape. X)

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