Quoting: "Anon, post: 6817"As a side note, I assume everyone still knows nothing of Splot? I really liked the look of it, and it's been a bloody long time now. It looks like they're likely to have another game out before Splot is done...

Splot was pushed back to early 2013 a month or two ago. The FB guys are focusing on getting their WiiU stuff out the door before launching Splot.

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Quoting: "Hamish, post: 6741, member: 6"Only problem I am experincing on first blush is that sometimes when loading the application the login screen gets a bit messed up like so:

Wait till you see the other potential side effect (sometimes colours get a bit exciting). Is this on a fresh system, or one that has previously had Desurium installed? How frequently would you say this is happening for you?

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We've put out an [URL='http://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?threads/desurium-0-8-rc3-call-for-testing.1459/']official call for testing[/URL] for RC3 now. Sorry for the mixup - we weren't sure how long it was going to take to get RC3 packages and builds together, and we didn't want to ask people to test something that they could only compile from source (since we've often had people who haven't been comfortable building it themselves wanting to try it out).

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Apologies to anybody who's gotten excited a bit early. The RC3 call for testing document is a draft that wasn't labelled as such (my bad).

It's close, and we'd love any feedback we can get, but we're not putting out our call for testing just yet (we're still working with package maintainers to make sure that RC3 is actually available) :)

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 6777, member: 1"Well we all have our own opinions on why people are now jumping into bed with Linux and no one is right and no one is wrong until those companies/developers specifically state why, even then it's a question of if they are telling the truth or not which again is down to if you believe them or not...

You can still be right or wrong - you just won't know that you are. Belief does not dictate truth. Opinions in this case are just guesses and speculation.

Edit: Oh, I see. You're saying that whether or not people choose to believe the truth of any official statements that arise is up to them. That's true.

That said, I think there's enough evidence out there that it can be considered a fact that Valve were working on Linux stuff before the future of Windows became apparent. I imagine it's probably added incentive, but the state of other platforms it's not the only reason for, and can't have been the instigator of them Linux providing Linux support.

Hamish's point about GOG having access to stuff that nobody else does is pretty valid. Their DRM-free stance, their level of service and bundled extras are also unparalleled by other digital game stores. If GOG were to eventually support Linux, this would be an awesome thing, not only for GOG customers, but also in encouraging people like Gameolith and Desura to lift their game a bit to compete.

Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 6777, member: 1"Also I spoke with ttimo recently, he's hard at work on Urban Terror HD

Oh, that's fantastic to hear :)

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Quoting: "FutureSuture, post: 6772, member: 204"GOG has done so much good for me, I am not about to drop them over one hiccup.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't support them. I'm saying that you shouldn't expect Linux support from them (and that if native support is something you care about, giving those who have made the commitment, that choosing to grab your native titles from them will not only benefit both you and that publisher, but also the industry in general in that it will reveal some level of Linux user buyer behaviour that would otherwise be obscured/misinterpreted as Windows user buyer behaviour - every time you purchase a Windows game, you add one to Windows stats and unless you were planning to purchase again, you'd take one away from Linux stats).

Quoting: "Hamish, post: 6773, member: 6"Valve knew for years that people wanted to and were playing their games on Linux - but Linux releases did not happen until they wanted to do it for their own reasons. Same thing with Unity, and now they claim to have always loved Linux which seems quite amusing to me.

I don't believe that's particularly true in either case. Valve started working on Linux support long before Windows 8 was announced. Given the way that Valve work, it's sad, but understandable that it's taken this long (people work on what they want to work on, and as game developers, most of them want to work on making games). Also, I doubt they had a very clear picture of how many of their existing customers were interested in Linux support - the hardware and software survey didn't work in Wine until relatively recently, and by that time, a bug had been introduced that only allowed previous respondents to be prompted, and even after that, the survey didn't report anything specifically identifying Wine (the information submitted is a subset of what's shown in the Steam system profiler. Wine Gecko shows up as "installed software", but as the installed software section of the survey results hasn't been updated since July 2010, it's impossible to know how visible that information would be or whether it's even currently being tracked).

Conversely, I got the impression that the Unity claims were from individual developers who love/use Linux who had wanted to do this for years rather than something that's come from the company itself.

Either way, Unity and Steam fill two perceived voids that have prevented some game developers from supporting Linux (affordable engine, and publishing/distribution), and though they're fairly late to the party (it would have been fantastic to have them back when Epic, id, developers were dishing out Linux support for "AAA" titles, with Loki and then LGP around to help other devs bridge that gap).

Totally agree with you on the id front, but I think that's more attitudes coming down from Zenimax/Bethesda than a change in enthusiasm within id itself (though I won't argue against ttimo having left a big hole).

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Quoting: "FutureSuture, post: 6744, member: 204"They will definitely be coming to Linux, the question is simply when.

They'll need to get past their silly cop-out reasons for not doing it. I buy stuff from them, but when I want native, I go with someone who's already made the commitment.

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Quoting: "FutureSuture, post: 6664, member: 204"I am waiting for Trine and Trine 2 to get their Linux versions on GOG before I buy them. In order for that to happen, Trine 2 should probably come out on GOG first. Didn't know those games had local cooperative play!

You'll need to wait for GOG to support Linux first (so far as I'm aware, that's not happening any time soon).

As another option, if you buy Trine from their official websites, you get DRM free versions (as well as Steam keys). There's a collectors edition of Trine 2 which comes with a digital art book and soundtrack (which I imagine would be the extras that GOG would have).

Also, it was fantastic to see Distance get so close to its second stretch goal ^_^

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Quoting: "FutureSuture, post: 6363, member: 204"I think I'll open up a request on GOG to have them sell this game once it comes out. It looks marvellous, and I can't think of any other games for the PC, may they be on Linux, Windows, or Mac OS, that have split screen multiplayer. Brilliant.

Overgrowth has split screen multiplayer. Trine and Trine 2 have local coop (though the screen doesn't split). I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of others as well (though nothing that I use, as I have a LAN in my house :D )

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It was pretty astounding to watch the impact social networking and other coverage has had since we first posted a news article about it. Back then it looked like they weren't going to make it.

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