Personally I'm all for games using specific Steam depots or doing specific 'optimizations' for the Steam Deck, even if they make an effort for games outside of steam on PC :tongue: However like the majority are saying, a game that can only be played on the Steam Deck is silly. Preaching to the choir here I'm sure.

PC games should work on all PC hardware (well to an extent obviously going to be difficult to get ARM PCs to run a lot of games right now lol), and if someone makes a PC game and has the resources/finances/potential audience to port to a console or mobile device then all power to them. I never liked new games exclusive to a console because if I wanted to play it then I would have to pay for the hardware being sold on and not be able to use what I already had. The Steam Deck is proof you can go against all of the industry standards especially when those standards are bad for the consumers.

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I have owned the deck since September and haven't played a single one of these games lol :whistle: PC gaming has such a gigantic library of games.

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Quoting: dziadulewiczThat's the point: i like to pay Valve and Steam even 3 times for same shit, just because they TRULY advance Linux gaming. I do understand though, that this is kind of an alternative way. I don't want to "support" Epig nor GOG in any way, until they start to support Linux as first class citizen.

I would say that outside of Steam, then GOG and itch.io are fine as alternatives for offering DRM-free games w/ Linux ports. I would not compare GOG to Epic Games at all. I understand where you're coming from, but GOG at least has something going for it. It's not just another Origin/EA App, Ubisoft Connect, etc.

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Fedora Silverblue, OpenSUSE MicroOS, and VanillaOS have a lot of potential for Linux newbies. It's for those who want to have a reliable and stable system that gets automatic updates that also has the ability to rollback from a bad update without losing any data. With Distrobox, you basically have access to every package manager that can run inside of a contained environment. Also, with all 3 of these distros I mentioned, you can still layer the default package manager if you need any extra system tools to be part of your system as well.

For the gaming aspect: make an Arch Linux distrobox container. Install Steam and Lutris, and use Mesa-git (if you're on AMD) inside the container. You now have a bleeding edge container just for Steam and Lutris while your base system can still run stable Mesa. Don't want to use Distrobox? Flatpak Steam, Lutris (and whatever other GUI wine frontend/prefix manager you use) is there as a fallback.

Seriously underrated distros that I never see get recommended. You have the best of both worlds --- stability and versatility! In a couple of years I can see them improving to the point where they will be much easier to work with than any traditional Linux desktop distro.

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Quoting: LinuxerWould even buy games from GOG but as long as there's no official Linux client, guess what GOG? All da monis go to Steam and Valve.

I disagree. I do buy more from Steam, but GOG is my #2 storefront. At the very least it does sell Linux ports which is more than most of the PC storefronts / clients.

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The native port is fine, but it uses OpenGL, which works for you if your GPU doesn't have Vulkan support I suppose. I use Proton because DXVK seems to get a lot better performance. I also heard getting mods for this game is a lot easier thru Proton than the native port. Both are playable though and it's just down to preference.

I just searched to see if there were any videos on youtube with native v. proton, and here's a good comparison from 2020 - https://youtu.be/jDf00eS4XJ0 [External Link]

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Soda seems like an interesting wine runner for non-steam games. Will try it with Bottles when I get the chance!

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Quoting: denyasisQuestion, I'm not familiar with snap/flatpack, but if it keeps everything in the container, does that mean it limits what it can access outside the container? Like prevents Steam from reading the rest of my /home partition for example?

Yes. Although different applications have different permissions by default, I would recommend installing flatseal to a get a good GUI for permissions of each application including Steam. Steam's flatpak default permission cannot see anything other than ~/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/. You can give it an additional permission to see a 'steamlibrary' folder on a secondary hard drive as well. Flatpak has room for improvement but I generally prefer it for closed source applications if it works okay with it.

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Quoting: fireplaceI’m glad the Steam Flatpak is getting more traction. Native games on Linux sometimes required libraries outside of the Steam runtime, and developers don’t notice this and just say that it only supports ubuntu or fedora or some crap like that. Now with the Flatpak, it’ll be clear as day if the native game works or not.

Flatpak Steam has some issues but mostly with older native goldscr games and is easily fixable with a launch option. However I use it simply due to organization and the fact it limits read/write of all my other files on my desktop. 100% recommend the steam flatpak especially if you hate when native linux games just throw folders anywhere in /home/.

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Quoting: Anza

Quoting: Craggles086Is there any way of playing Counter Strike solo?

Would love a single player campaign mode.

Only thing I had against it.

No, not really. You can practice against the bots, that's pretty much about it. There must be great single player games with same theme though. But at least you get that for free.

Closest I can think of is Rainbox Six games. Never played them and I don't know how good they work with Proton.

Condition Zero has 3 singleplayer modes:

Tour of Duty which is a challenge mode where it's like a multiplayer match with bots but you have to accomplish certain things within the match.

Deleted Scenes is a scrapped campaign that isn't really finished, very buggy, and plays like a modern military shooter but without regenerating healing.

Then a custom LAN game with bots that you can customize the bots. Counter-Strike Source also has this.

Global Offensive singleplayer is probably ok with custom maps.

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