I'm really curious about Black Mesa, I'll have to check that out. I will do my best to skip the ARMA parts though. Oddly, my year in the army didn't leave me hungry for more, real or fake.

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Quoting: DuckeenieWhy would you assume a reply to someone else would be about you?

Because I was in a hurry and skimmed it. I did edit the post after I saw my mistake. Sorry for the noise.

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Quoting: DuckeenieHope you will consider publishing your findings. :)

If you're talking about mine, I'm sorry to say I didn't bother saving the results after my informal tests. They were done on impulse and I didn't think there was anything useful to report. Basically everything I tested performed within a percentage point or two of each other in the few real-world tests I did, and my Xfce installation was running a tweaked Compton as the compositor so not exactly OOTB. There might have been slightly bigger variation on my work desktop with the Intel Haswell iGPU than my i7 / Nvidia gaming box, but I'd never game on the work machine anyway. I only did it on both systems because it was easy (had a spare SSD with all the desktops installed and configured) and I was curious.

EDIT: Of course you were talking to Samsai, not me.

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Quoting: DuckeenieWhich is why I used the other link in the first instance... The point is two independent tests show that XFCE is slower when gaming.

And a quick googling will produce tests where it isn't. In my own tests on my systems against Mate and a couple of others left Xfce somewhere in the middle with insignificantly small differences overall (on my hardware at least), so I saw no reason to ditch the DE I'm most comfortable with.

It's likely that the performance disparity is not nearly as apparent on stronger hardware. Phoronix seems to have used Intel integrated graphics while the other test used Radeon R7 integrated.

Quite possibly one of the reasons these reports might not be representative. Also the reason why I added the "on my hardware" qualifier to my own test results.

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Quoting: Duckeenie

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Quoting: DuckeenieI loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.

Source [External Link]

That benchmark is far from scientific though. Seems like every single test gets conflicting results.

Don't know why you say conflicting results, XFCE comes last in every single test. Scientific or not without counter-evidence it stands. :P

Phronix did similar tests too. [External Link]

The Phoronix test uses Ubuntu's default settings with the compositors enabled.

Which is why I used the other link in the first instance... The point is two independent tests show that XFCE is slower when gaming.

And a quick googling will produce tests where it isn't. In my own tests on my systems against Mate and a couple of others left Xfce somewhere in the middle with insignificantly small differences overall (on my hardware at least), so I saw no reason to ditch the DE I'm most comfortable with.

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Quoting: Duckeenie

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: DuckeenieI loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.

Source [External Link]

That benchmark is far from scientific though. Seems like every single test gets conflicting results.

Don't know why you say conflicting results, XFCE comes last in every single test. Scientific or not without counter-evidence it stands. :P

Phronix did similar tests too. [External Link]

The Phoronix test uses Ubuntu's default settings with the compositors enabled.

EDIT: Data gathered by non-scientific means doesn't become science simply because nobody tested properly.

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Quoting: Doc AngeloIf you bought Steam games for your 32bit system and you can't access them anymore, you essentially lost them.

The only thing anyone lost is the integrated browser though. If you can't access your games on a 32-bit system, that's a bug. The games-as-a-service model still sucks of course.

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Quoting: DuckeenieI loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.

Source [External Link]

That benchmark is far from scientific though. Seems like every single test gets conflicting results.

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Why do Ubuntu users install manually when there's a PPA maintained by Ubuntu staff? A mystery for the ages. Or at least for me.

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Quoting: WaikanoWhat's considered "pretty old hardware"? - Q9550 w/ NVIDIA 680.

Anything before the GeForce 400 series, so much older than yours. The GPU driver doesn't care about your CPU.

EDIT: I'm slow.

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