Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: pb> Why now though?

Perhaps they want to prevent Dolphin from being discovered and easily available for the SteamDeck crowd?

maybe they want to re-relase some of those games on switch , that will attract atention to many games that people forgoten about and they dont want those same people to know about any easy way to play then for free...

The thing is, it's not "for free". If you bought the old game, you've already paid for it. Essentially Nintendo is fighting tooth and nail to prevent their customers from playing games they've bought, and that's not a good look.

You can try to make this about piracy again but that's a whole different discussion, and not really an excuse when the paying customers get equally shafted in the process.

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Quoting: Klaas

Quoting: Purple Library GuyCoulda called it "Agricola" or something

An risk being stuck in a Uwe Rosenberg game? :shock:

I mainly knew Agricola as the guy [External Link] who wrote the first Finnish language ABC book in the 16th century, so Purple's reference was quite confusing. Then I remembered once reading about the Roman general with the same name, and realised that the name probably means "farmer" or something along those lines. Made me feel slightly less dumb. Still missing the actual reference, most likely.

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Quoting: FSFmemberI don't even know where the button is - 100% serious and online since 2001.

Some ad-blockers prevent it from being displayed, if memory serves. It should appear right above the article's tags, as a small square button with a heart on it next to a similar one with a bookmark symbol on it.

If you happen to be running uBlock, simply clicking the eye icon in the plugin UI to disable cosmetic filtering on this site is enough to bring it back. The button doesn't seem to work right now though.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismI picked up Session (the skateboard game) (but not at this sale) ... and unfortunately hated it.

It had too strong angsty juvenile vibes and I didn't care for the quality of the modeling or the controls.

Well here's [External Link] a decidedly non-angsty skateboard game for you. :grin:

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I did look at Descenders (again), and it still looks fun, but I really don't need more games right now. Gotta work on that backlog.

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Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: tuubiThere's one question I'd like answered by people against console emulation: How do you feel about people running Windows software on Wine/Proton? How and why is it any different, ethically or legally? How much am I allowed to deviate from the intended target platform until I'm hurting some corporation's feelings?

"Wine Is Not an Emulator".

Hah! Somehow I knew you'd cite this. I don't see how that bears any legal or ethical relevance. You're still running a game on an unsupported operating system, using software other than what the game was made for, and possibly even on a different hardware platform. What difference does it make if the game was originally made for Windows or for the Switch?

Quoting: poiuzAnd I don't think you violate any licenses. You can download & run the unmodified binaries from the official sources. Just as Nintendo, a developer can take (legal) actions if they have concerns about the usage (e.g. Roblox).

So you don't have anything against emulators as long as users run their games from the original media?

I think I saw Roblox mentioned in the title of a GOL article, so I'm guessing it's a game. But what sort of "concerns about the usage" of some Mario game should Nintendo have if someone wants to run it on a PC in the privacy of their own home? Or maybe you mean they might be concerned about the existence of software that makes it possible?

Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: tuubiIt's not. A car maker can't tell you where or how you are allowed to drive their product. Traffic laws and driving permits are irrelevant to the discussion, as they have a very different scope and purpose. Emulating a game does not endanger public safety.

It is. The car maker is not part of the analogy. The analogy is about rules & that just the means is not enough of a justification. You need a permit to drive in public streets.

The developer is the car maker. I'm simply trying to explain why this analogy does not work. There's no equivalence, because driving in traffic without a permit is clearly illegal. Emulating a game is not, to my knowledge.

Quoting: poiuzYou don't own the software you buy & are bound by its license. Both is regulated by law.

Whether the license is valid or not is not of importance since it's not your decision. You can only initialize a review.

That's probably true in your average corporate dystopia. In the slightly less dystopic environment I happen to reside in, I am free to ignore license terms if they conflict with laws and regulations. An agreement or contract is binding only as far as it is legal. For example, it's safe to disregard the fairly common EULA clause prohibiting personal backups if you live in the EU. I think it's actually considered "fair use" even in the (considerably more corporate) US. It's not my decision, but neither is it the licensor's. I don't have to sue to exercise my rights as a consumer.

Here's a couple [External Link] of sources [External Link] that seem to support my points. There are probably better sources, but it's late and these are what DDG picked for me.

Whether you actually own a game you paid for is neither here nor there, because you're not sharing unauthorized copies or whatever if all you do is play them on different hardware. Seems like you're still arguing against piracy, not emulation.

Quoting: tuubiBut as I said: Ignore the analogy, it's not important.

You don't get to write a paragraph in support of a weak analogy and then tell others to ignore it. You walk away first! :grin:

Just a short disclaimer here at the end, just to show my lack of skin in the game: I have never owned any consoles or console games, Nintendo or otherwise. I am an occasionally vocal proponent of strong consumer protections and free software, but other than that, my interest in this topic is largely academic.

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There's one question I'd like answered by people against console emulation: How do you feel about people running Windows software on Wine/Proton? How and why is it any different, ethically or legally? How much am I allowed to deviate from the intended target platform until I'm hurting some corporation's feelings?

Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: tuubiThis is a pretty bad analogy. You don't need a permit to drive your car or comply with traffic laws on your own private land.

No, I think it's still ok.

It's not. A car maker can't tell you where or how you are allowed to drive their product. Traffic laws and driving permits are irrelevant to the discussion, as they have a very different scope and purpose. Emulating a game does not endanger public safety.

A car has never been a good analogy for digital goods, no matter what a certain doofus wanted you to believe twenty years ago.

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Quoting: poiuzJust because you own a car doesn't give you the right to drive it (anyway you want). You still need a permit & must comply with the rules.

This is a pretty bad analogy. You don't need a permit to drive your car or comply with traffic laws on your own private land.

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Quoting: GroganI hope this gets merged with DXVK (seems cooperative)

https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/pull/3411 [External Link]

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Quoting: StoneColdSpider

Quoting: Kiwii

Quoting: Liam DaweAFAIK, you can only map them using their software which of course isn't on Linux.

You can map them with the smartphone app.

And if your on Linux and dont have a smartphone???......

Well..

How to run Android Apps in Linux without an Emulator [External Link]

The app didn't detect my 8BitDo gamepads on my Sailfish OS phone with its Alien Dalvik Android emulation. I suppose it might work on Waydroid though.

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