I love seeing stuff like this. :grin: I wonder how many new games for old consoles are on Steam now? Off of the top of my head I can also think of Tanglewood (Mega Drive), Micro Mages (NES), and the Second Dimension RetroPak Vol. 1 (also NES).

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Some players provided feedback indicating the continued preference for a Windows operating system.

Market-players, with a preference for splashing lots of cash, I'm sure. :tongue:

Quoting: scaineWhat a cop out. This isn't about gamers. They either buckled to MS pressure, or loud-voiced social pressure.

I have no respect left in the tank for this outfit. Long live Stream Deck, basically.

Likewise. I'm as disappointed about this as I was when GPD had their hissyfit about the Steam Deck (and in GPD's case, I actually own some of their hardware - it's nice and I would've liked to see them embrace something that fit it well).

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In other news, Palworld crossed 8 million copies sold now.

It's great to see that a game that the market has wanted for a long time is doing so well! :smile:

Quoting: HermesWell, the overall style of most pals is something that derives heavily from pokémon. I think that's the issue, more than the game itself. Some Pals are flagrant Pokemon copies. It's not about the game per se being a copy of Pokémon. It's about the pals being pokémon copies.

Quoting: KlausBut the three listed above are too close for Nintendo not to sue. Not about the gameplay, but about the specific designs.

I've posted these before, but, take a look at them;


Bomberman Max [External Link] (1999)


Keitai Denjuu Telefang [External Link] (2000)


Robopon [External Link] (1998)

No action was ever taken about any of these (and there are plenty more games I could've named besides), and as you can see some of them are almost-identical in design (hell, one of them, from Robopon, is literally just two non-Pokemon characters glued together - it's on the bottom row, it's literally Kirby with Pac-Man sitting on his head). There are plenty of elements about Pokemon that actually aren't as copyrightable as certain parties would want you to believe.

Quoting: mindedie- ogre in full tiger suit? stylized golem?

Electabuzz bears a bit of resemblance to some depictions of oni and yetis, as well.

Quoting: eldakingI personally think it is fine, but I have seen people comparing the 3d meshes and they look way closer - with textures it is clearly distinct, but I don't know if the meshes being too similar might be infringement?

Quoting: Talon1024There is already clear-cut solid evidence of plaigiarism [External Link] on the part of Pocketpair.

But since they made so much money from Palworld, one would hope they would use it to hire on a few more artists so that the Pokemon ripoff designs can be replaced with less infringing designs and models.

Quoting: Mountain ManThose examples are pretty conclusive. It's the 3D modeling equivalent of copying a paragraph, changing a few words, and then passing it off as your own work. I suspect, at the very least, the Pal World developers will be forced to remove those critters from the game.

It's worth pointing out that the person who did those comparisons has since admitted that they tweaked the models to make them fit together [External Link], and then backpedalled, claiming they falsified these examples of the meshes being identical because they feel that Palworld glorifies animal-abuse.

Quoting: ElamanOpiskelijaI see the similarities and to me Palworld clearly looks like a parody. But, is it such a problem that all these people are having fun?

Quoting: BelaptirIt is, because it's not Nintendo the one making money from it.
And this is extremely bad for both Nintendo and its fanatics.

There is some worryingly cult-like behaviour out there regarding Nintendo. I'm a former fan myself, but never fitted in with the fandom because when the company got things wrong, I took issue with it and shared opinions on how they could improve, as any sane person would. That gets you run out of town in those circles! :tongue:

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Quoting: InhaleOblivionPeople act like Digimon and TemTem don't exist. If Nintendo had any legal standing they would send Steam a DCMA request to pull the game.

Bomberman Max [External Link] (1999)


Keitai Denjuu Telefang [External Link] (2000)


Robopon [External Link] (1998)

:wink:

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Quoting: Linux_RocksHmm: http://www.gamesradar.com/game-developers-arent-really-buying-the-similarities-between-palworld-and-pokemon-to-accidentally-create-a-complex-model-mesh-with-so-near-exact-proportions-is-practically-impossible/ [External Link] lol

The person making those claims has since been found out to have been tweaking the Pokemon and Palworld models to try to pretend they fit [External Link], though.

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Have you picked up a copy? Or are you skipping it for whatever reason? Let me know in the comments.

It's not my sort of game, so no. However, as I mentioned in another article about Palworld, I'm happy to see it doing so well due to how the leading brand has become so complacent in recent times.

From my perspective, it's an interesting look at the market - people have been asking for years for Pokemon to be a bit more daring, and whilst it's understandable why that series often won't (or can't) branch out, it's cool to finally see that audience being served. And of course Nintendo was never going to offer anything for that audience - not only for the sake of maintaining the brand, but also because they expect people to strictly buy their own hardware for that, and not everyone wants it.

Quoting: Liam DaweCurrently, there's no proof at all that Palworld used AI in any way - just FYI. It's all speculation.

There are some folks out there who really have it out for this game, as if it's offended the honour of another series they like! :shock: :tongue:

I don't get why folks go to bat for large corporations in cases like this - it's clear that this is something that the market wants, and as has been discussed before, the big brand they're defending does not and cannot own the elements that are being complained about, and has taken no action against things that bore greater similarities than this. I've even seen specific complaints about Palworld using tropes from Pokemon, but tropes are special in that they're specifically not copyrightable in the first place.

Personally, I'd be bloody grateful if, say, Bomberman (a series which I won't deny is pretty overlooked these days, not helped by Konami giving it pretty much no promotion), was getting extra attention from a good game that builds on its ideas, as is happening here - a boost like that would be good for both offerings, in such a case. :tongue:

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Quoting: Justin_SI haven't been keeping up with the Enigma DRM situation as much as I'd prefer,

The whole thing is a ridiculous mess, and I've lost the ability to keep a straight face when telling people what kicked it off. :tongue: Capcom really ought to be embarrassed - it's been the universe's biggest overreaction, no exaggeration.

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The name of this project really made me smile - "Surreal Engine" is just such a great name. :grin:

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Quoting: fenglengshunI love just how much of a mess Wine, by itself and combined with other components, are that we need multiple projects to make it usable for most users.

I just look at it as a component part, rather than something that's a mess on its own - a pile of thread and fabrics can look like a mess until you sew them into something. :smile:

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Quoting: CgamerOn the other hand is Capcom going to remove support for their games on Steam Deck. Monster Hunter World and Rise will get the new "Enigma" DRM making them unable to use on the Deck. I'm really disappointed.

This has been going on since sometime last year (September as far as I know, though it may have been earlier), and several other games are affected as well.

That said, to be absolutely fair (and I hate saying this, because adding undeclared DRM to an old title after it was purchased is, in my books, simply distributing malware), games that were saddled with it are still working on Deck after Proton fixes, and some of them never had any problems at all.

Now, I wouldn't want to use games afflicted with it personally because Capcom breached my trust on this, and I have uninstalled the few Capcom titles I have (some affected, some not), but it's only right to be accurate about this - that way, no-one can claim that people are objecting on false grounds.

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