Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: gradyvuckovicFor Linux (& Mac) gamers, that would mean all those games currently not playable on Linux, the 40% or so of Steam that isn't quite there yet with Proton, would suddenly immediately become playable via an alternative solution, ie: streaming from a Valve server. Effectively bringing all Steam games to Linux.

The Valve servers would have to run on Windows, though and I highly doubt Valve would want to pay for those licenses.

No they wouldn't, not with Steam Play once it's mature enough.

I suspect SteamStreaming, or SteamCloud (who knows how they will call that), might happen the day SteamPlay/Proton leaves beta and become official. Simultaneous announcements is my guess.

Edit: It can't be too far away, because Valve risks long term damages, if they let users get accustomed to the competitions' solutions (Xcloud or Stadia).

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Quoting: dibz

Quoting: MohandevirNot on subject, but just a tought... What use for EGS exclusivity deals if Xbox PC gamepass works around it? Metro Exodus is now on the Xbox PC gamepass, after 4 months of exclusivity. Has the sales been lower then they expected? Could it become the demise of Epic's strategy? Better put their Fortnite cash down the drain, unless it's a Steam lockout deal?

IMHO it's absolutely a steam-lockout deal in everything but name.

If that's so, I dare hope that Steam as legal recourses against EGS.

Edit:

EGS is so focused on attacking Steam that they don't realize that they are going to be overtaken by Microsoft, at full speed?

Thing is, Win32 app or not, Xbox gamepass or UWP... It's the same concept in a different wrapping. Ulitmately, MS is still pursuing the goal of making everyone use it's store. If it happens, be carefull of the next step(s).

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Not on subject, but just a tought... What use for EGS exclusivity deals if Xbox PC gamepass works around it? Metro Exodus is now on the Xbox PC gamepass, after 4 months of exclusivity. Has the sales been lower then they expected? Could it become the demise of Epic's strategy? Better put their Fortnite cash down the drain, unless it's a Steam lockout deal?

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Epic on one side of the exclusive stuff and Microsoft on the other. They really are trying to whrench PC gaming from Steam. It might just be exagerated from my part, but I'm worried for the influence of Steam, on the long term and, thus, for Linux gaming. I'm affraid Valve might be forced to speed up studio acquisitions too, to protect a part of their market, like they did with Campo Santo (Firewatch).

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Quoting: pete910Hate to say it, but those thinking this will bring more games to linux (destop) I feel are in for some serious disappointment!

Let's wait and see. We will have some form of answer, when these games launch on Steam. No going to speculate on the outcome though.

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Quoting: MohandevirMmmm...

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3401136/destiny-2-is-coming-to-steam-in-september.html [External Link]

Will it support linux (Stadia build)? Will the Windows version run on Vulkan? Will it be playable with Proton?
Not my kind of game, but it's still a big title... No? I'm not familliar with the game.

Baldur's Gate III on Steam too... It's probably just that, but the coincidence makes me wonder.

its F2P and stadia is also free. i am not sure if it makes any sense to make F2P games for any other platform than stadia... maybe for slow internet connections

but if you have like 50mbit, why would you download it? you have to be online... duuuhhh when you wanna play it, it takes 0 space on your drive (steam says 105 GB), its completely silent, you dont have to pay for higher power consumption

if stadia is really that cheap, SHADOW will have a hard time

Still... Lots of Stadia and Steam simultaneous announcements... Won't it give have an indication of the impact of Stadia, on Linux desktop support? That's just what I meant. Didn't see any Stadia+Epic announcements. Just crossing my fingers. :)

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Mmmm...

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3401136/destiny-2-is-coming-to-steam-in-september.html [External Link]

Will it support linux (Stadia build)? Will the Windows version run on Vulkan? Will it be playable with Proton?
Not my kind of game, but it's still a big title... No? I'm not familliar with the game.

Baldur's Gate III on Steam too... It's probably just that, but the coincidence makes me wonder.

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Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: MohandevirNo hard drive failure in 15 years? Wow! Hardly believable.

I upgraded it once or twice, so it's not 15 years of continuous use for one drive, but none has ever failed me. In fact, the only component I've ever had to replace because of a defect has been a DVD drive. Even when my Ethernet cable somehow soldered itself to its port it kept working :D

Imo, a hardrive failure/replacement is probably the worst. Not because it's costly, but because of the downtime involved; you have to reinstall to whole thing and if you don't have a backup, which many don't, you need to redownload all of your games. Many recent titles are 50gb-100gb... Quite long if your connexion is slow. Even if you have a backup of your files, it's not instantaneous.

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Quoting: CyrilSorry but it doesn't make sense at all. Your PS2 games are not hardwired to your console, you don't loose your game library at all. Your games are untouched if a console failure occurs. :|

Nevermind. You are right, my example wasn't a good one, I already admited it and being a PC gamer, it's not a subject that's relevent to me, anyway.

I should have limited myself to this:

Quoting: MohandevirThis said, if Stadia is a success, there is no reason to stop supporting it. Google+ was shutdown because nobody used it anymore. If Stadia is a failure, who will it hurt? It's going to die in general indifference, like the other projects Google killed.

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Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: liamdaweAlso, "unfair" about paying and not having any real access to the files, what's fair about it?
Google has issues? No game.
Your net has issues? No game.

This can be replaced by: "Motherboard failure ($$$), no games, HDD failure ($$), no games, GPU failure($$$$), no games, RAM failure($), no games... Want me to go on? It's all about managing the risks. Both point of view are valid.

None of these failures have happened to me in over 15 years, so it's such a tiny risk that I don't see a reason to even factor it into my game-purchasing decisions. Power or cable failures, on the other hand, happen several times a year, not to mention that sometimes I might want to play a game somewhere without Internet access.

Yeah... Want me to show you my brand new RX580 that I had to send back, 2 months ago?

No hard drive failure in 15 years? Wow! Hardly believable.

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