What's the bottom line of all this Lunix? What are you trying to convince us?
Feels like this discussion as lasted way too long.

You got your opinion, fine... Stick to it. Your point of view is your own and has as much value as any other from anyone here. It's all biased in some way by our own personnal experiences that differs from one person to another...

Do you want to have an open discussion or you just want to show us all that you are right? At this point, it's beginning to look like trolling.

Please, be on your way, there is nothing to see...

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Quoting: GuestEven something so simple as: how much power do they draw when idle, what kind of heat do they generate, what noise is produced from the fans running. Power consumption is actually another very important metric of mine, and I don't go out buying the latest & greatest for that reason. I wait a bit to see what comes out that might not use more electricity than my entire current system on full load. Bills to pay and all that.

This! Noise and power draw. On purpose, I never put more than a 500w PSU in my rigs and never overclock. Personnal choice, for similar reasons as yours. Above that, it's too pricy, imo. I believe that RTX will gain mass adoption when it will meet these requirements, also. Even on PS5/Xbox Series X, it's not all games that will make use of RTX.

"Among Us and Fall Guy with RTX!" Like caviar in Kraft dinner! :grin:

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Nice! The RX6800xt should be head to head with the RTX3080, 20W less and no 12-pins connector.

Good job AMD!

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Keeping an eye on which one will be the new RX5600xt iteration to replace my super noisy/furnace hot GTX 1660 Super (Asus Phoenix single fan) that I will probably use in a dedicated streaming server for my kids, in my well vented Cooler master HAF-XB case, hidden in my "server room". Let them beat it to death! :)

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Quoting: mao_dze_dun

Quoting: nullzero

Quoting: mao_dze_dunGamerOS (that name IS stupid)

About the name, there is huge thread on discord about the dev asking feedback and suggestions for names, but and actually it's really difficult to find a good one. Most are taken by other gaming or semi-gaming related websites / products, or focus on a non-core feature of the OS.

No good one has been found yet (or at least when I looked at it 1-2 months ago)

:huh:

I always find it easier to remember names when they are not generic, so maybe they should just pick up something that is completely removed from gaming.

Maybe it could be a new label (like Nintendo, Playstation or Xbox), that defines an open source, store agnostic, pc gaming console?

At this moment, SteamOS-Compositor is the easy go to as a basis for this use-case, but who knows what the futur holds? GamerOS could come to integrate Gamehub, GoG Galaxy and/or Lutris, at some point, into a unified, controller friendly interface. Who knows, some kind of Android like OS, based on Gamescope?

Just brainstorming here... Probably not going to happen. :smile:

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Quoting: mao_dze_dunAh, now we're talking. I know purists will be thoroughly pissed, but I'm plenty happy to see something like this. Market is fragmented (which is actually a good thing IMO, but I know a lot will disagree), which is why I love GOG Galaxy 2.0 on Windows. But having a Linux distro for TV that supports both Steam and Epic - now that's something else entirely. Wasn't particularly interested in GamerOS (that name IS stupid), but now I'll keep a close eye. Good job. PC gaming in general has been needing a much better living room experience.

The problem is not fragmentation. I got nothing against that. The problem is Epic with it's garbage propaganda and dubious practices. It would be the last storefront I would support, personnally. Unfortunately, many seem to forget that we vote with our wallets, when it comes to Epic. Sure thing, they won't get a dime from me.

How does it goes? "Epic sees the mote in other's eye, but can't see the beam in it's own."

This said, good job for GamerOS! Awesome console OS!

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Just for the record...

I found my "tearing culprit", but it's still an issue for me... Allow flipping in the Nvidia driver's OpenGL settings. Thing is, I need to disable it if I want to use Steam Link streaming, else the client screen keeps on flickering every seconds or so and the experience is not fluid at all.

It's like if I needed a dedicated computer only for Streaming, with "Allow Flipping" turned off, so as not to meddle with my main desktop. Sad & bad, imo.

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Quoting: agereshttps://cad-comic.com/comic/wretched/

In fact, I'm not sure that Amazon cares that much about quality, for Luna. They'll put minimal efforts to satisfy it's Twitch fan base (Quality vs Twitch integration commodity) and then proceed to milk it. :sick:

But I think that what they call a wretched zombie is more like a baby that's learning to stand up & walk... But hey, many don't like kids, so... :wink:

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Stadia is getting close to 100 games now, which is actually quite surprising and there's a lot more confirmed to be on the way. By the time Amazon Luna opens up to people, Stadia will have quite a big library ready for the fight.

My toughts, exactly. As long as Luna is in closed beta, it gives some headroom to Stadia to put it all together. Amazon won't take as much time, but GeForce Now was considered beta for a couple of years.

If Amazon hit a technical issue on a technology they do not own... They could get caught in development limbo for some time.

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Quoting: randyl

Quoting: flesk

Quoting: 3zekiel

Quoting: Liam DaweNot that it matters to the vast majority (us Linux fans don't count for much...) it's based on Windows https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/1309271277325049856?s=20 [External Link]

I wonder, should we jump on the stadia train for now? I mean, they are the only one who kinda support us for now... Do you think that a strong stadia will encourage more devs to go for Linux ?

Stadia unquestionably has more positive repercussions for us, since it forces developers to adapt to Linux and Vulkan, whereas Luna makes that completely irrelevant. No matter what you think of streaming, Stadia is clearly a better deal for our ecosystem than Luna or GeForce Now.

That may be true in some cases but not true in a lot of other cases. It seems like the compatibility layers and shims to make Windows games run on Linux could be the biggest benefit. Destiny 2 was not written with Linux in mind as far as I know, but ran really well on Stadia. Is Google sharing that technology openly with the rest of Linux land? If not and it isn't GPL, then Google isn't doing much to move things forward at all in my opinion.

You right in saying that Stadia doesn't push Linux desktop adoption, but we benefit from Google's contribution to open source. They regularly push patches upstream that benefits to Linux desktop.

As for the specific case of Destiny 2, I may be wrong, but the problem is well known, if I remember correctly. It's related to Destiny's custom anti-cheat. It's been removed in the Stadia build and it's what causes a lot of problem on the desktop.

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