Quoting: Whitewolfe80I do get that arguement but knowing what is happening under the hood and therefore potential fixes is more helpful to the community that shrugging your shoulders and going meh next game.

I'm with you.
But I'm also pretty sure there is some kind of debug mode for proton - did not have time to look in protons bottles yet.
Also don't forget that proton is OpenSource - you can be part of it.
I think that plenty of people will send patches and write bug reports to valve.

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Quoting: GuestJust really want to point out that Valve see and fund things that are very useful, and that's not to be underestimated, but I personally dislike the treatment that it's all and entirely Valve doing everything.

It's hard to understand your point of view!
My question is why did the winehq developers not take the burden to make wine an out of the box feeling?

Don't take me wrong, I know howto use wine and my few windows games I have do run well with wine from winehq.
Currently more windows games run with newest wine than proton. But this will change in the next months.

Simply click install in the Steam Client and it configures the game for you automatically is what Linux needs - not all Linux users are geeks.

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Quoting: dannielloMy previous comment is about Steam hardware survey that has been collected from win32 Steam started via wine on Linux. In the past it was not clearly indicated how Valve is treating wine surveys (or at least I did not find Valve official statement about surveys from wine).

Ahhh. Now I know what you mean.

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Quoting: NonjuffoPurchases yes, but the hardware survey is a completely separate thing.

Does using proton (currently only for Linux) not mean you are using Linux!?
Or did I miss a thing?

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Quoting: dannielloSo it depends how Valve was processed it... Add to Windows? Or Linux? Or "Other"? Or reject completely as "false data"?

As Liam already communicated with Valve - IT WILL COUNT AS LINUX PURCHASE.

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Quoting: NonjuffoMaybe in January or so when this feature is out of beta(?) and the usage has stabilized. Doesn't Steam hardware survey emphasize new installs to a point that the results would be heavily skewed in favor of Linux from people that did just some quick tests? Unless the fix they did for cybercafes solved this behavior. In the short term it would certainly show if there is increased interest in Linux gaming due to this new feature (interesting data by itself though). I just don't think it would be a good indicator of actual marketshare in the next few months.

I guess you are right.
Now that wine/proton is buildin into steam, I for my part will start buying Windows games for which I've waited for tooooooooo long for native linux port.
I will wait for a cheap sale and buy them with a good feeling as they will count as a linux purchase.

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Quoting: GuestWhat possible motive will there be to do Linux-native when all the work is being done by someone else??

I know a lot of Windows Gamers that would love to switch to Linux if their current Windows games would run on linux.
And who knows how many of them are in the wild?
When linux gets a higher playerbase I could imagine that most developers will start to develop on vulkan and not directx.

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Tried to start "Divinity - Original Sin" yesterday and realized, that it's not working anymore with the divos-hack shim:(

Does anybody know if it is possible to install the windows version instead the linux one?

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I'm really excited what the next steam hardware survey will tell!?

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Hey GOG,
please sell redeem cards like Steam do at my gas station.

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