great, now we can pay to create games for google for free...
so we can earn 0 cents while they profit from our content and our content can be locked to their cloud.

quite smarth strategy from then, but i will pass.

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"sidestepping the actual Windows API. "
how is that even possible?

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Quoting: TheRiddickWe need to build a list of developers and publishers who don't allow cloud gaming with your existing bought copies of games...

Blacklist them all.

people (who dont care about linux) are already doing that, and as for us, it would only backfire against us, since GFN dont support linux anyway...

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Quoting: mylkai dont get it why nvidia has a client for STREAMING

why isnt it like stadia with a browser... should be way less maintaining

because they dont have an browser?
they wont launch one just for that, hell chrome is currently the only browser with support for that, wich means they arent using any standard codec for that, but an custom made one..
in other words, they would have to make an browser instead of support the ones we already have.
and by that point, its easier to make an client, well, the client might as well be just an electron app with an deeply integrated extension to support their proprietary codec.

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Quoting: drlambHowever unlikely I'd die if Google (Stadia) and Valve formed a partnership.

that wont happen.
the main issue with stadia is that games need to be ported to linux and vulkan to work on it, the cost of doing that is too high, but since google will earn something like 30% of the every game purchased on stadia, they can take this cost on then to make some profit later on.

that is totally contrary to geforce now, who stream games from an windows machine and as result, it can operate at the cost of streaming charging only an montly signature to use the service.

in theory it dont matter what runs on the service as long as it can stream to linux, but for some reason geForce now isnt avaliable for linux...

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" but it can't be ignored as part of the wider picture - a strong way to play games on PC without the need for a specific OS has clear benefits for Linux users."
except that most of those services dont work on linux for some mysterious reason.
actually its much easier to wine to support one of those services than all the games, but that will also put all your games in a single point of failure, if an update break stuff again you will lose a lot...

one of the issues that bother me the most is that many people dont seem to play on pc, just consoles, and yet, they dont use linux regardless of that..

another thing to take into account is geForece Now...

"Another simple counter is that it's becoming more and more obvious that Proton has far better historical compatibility with games than Windows does"

can you quote any example?

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"Denuvo Anti-Cheat will have Proton support out-of-the-box for releases beyond DOOM: Eternal. Feel free to @ me directly with feedback once you had a chance to try it. I'm happy access is restored for you guys."

holy shit, that is great news and at the same time, i dont know... their ring 0 backdoor working on linux sounds bad to me.

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Ehvis

How long before extinguish phase starts?

Never. Not because they don't want to, but because the importance of Linux as a whole is way bigger that than the worst-of-both-worlds WSL system can ever be. It simply doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Never say never when it's Microsoft. Changed in some ways, not at all in others ;)

You could argue that trying to pull developers from Linux to stick with Windows, and just use WSL for ML/AI/CUDA is part of an extinguish strategy. It is when you think of it quite literally, as keeping people on WSL where they control it. All depends on your point of view and what we're referencing when we say extinguish.

But the landscape is different. EEE applied to things microsoft could control in some way. The battle fought against Linux was lost long ago and the foothold that Linux has in the total market is way too big for EEE to work. Sure they can do the first E. They can try to do the second E, but it is doomed to fail because it won't find significant adoption. Which means the third one is out of the question.

To me the whole WSL thing is a curiosity. They made a Linux kernel work on Windows in a VM like manner, but what is the point? To have your Linux service go down with a windows update? Making things dependent on two systems instead of one is a guaranteed way to make it less reliable. As a whole WSL actually looks the same as Stadia. Sure, there is a narrow niche that might see an advantage in it and would use it, but it is not objectively better and will therefore be ignored by the big crowds.

its far worse than that.

intel have their own distribution wich is the only one who can take full advantage of their processors in some niche of the market.
IBM has their own distro and you can bet that there are some asic on their processor, or some transistors only acessible by their distro.
and so on, EVERYONE extends linux, that is why no one can extinguish it.

android is linux, but it has its own ecosystem completely independ from the desktop, stadia is linux but it has it own ecosystem that is only acessible via streaming, they are even making games like roblox/mario maker where you create content to be played on it...

my tv runs linux, so what? it has an free kernel with an proprietary UI that i can change, and the system is locked to an app store with a few apps that i can install on it and nothing more.
my router runs linux, and its pretty much the same, a few built-in functionalities and nothing more.
an air-drone runs linux, and they dont even have an official software to control it from an linux device...
where is the freedom on that?

do you see the patern here?
every one use linux either as an single apliance or to as the base to run e applications of their own ecosystem.
everyone creating their own extensions only avaliable on their ecosystem...

in other words:
google is extending linux with android.
microsoft will be extending linux with their own distro.
everyone will be using linux, and we will have some base in common such as libraries to build softwares on top of...
but most of the ecosystem that is what really matter may be exclusive to some apis, services, or system.

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this novel made enough sucess to turn into an anime, i think you should quote it on the article =p

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