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Quoting: NyamiouHere are the 50 best games of 2015 (so far) according to critics (source : metacritic [External Link] :

Grand Theft Auto V
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Pillars of Eternity
Kerbal Space Program
Ori and the Blind Forest
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee - New 'n' Tasty
Crypt of the NecroDancer
Her Story
Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward
Homeworld Remastered Collection
Heroes of the Storm
Cities: Skylines
Rocket League
Zenzizenzic
SOMA
Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime
Grim Fandango Remastered
Project CARS
Invisible, Inc.
Technobabylon
Hearthstone: Blackrock Mountain
King's Quest Chapter 1: A Knight to Remember
Dropsy
The Talos Principle: Road To Gehenna
Resident Evil HD Remaster
OlliOlli2: Welcome to Olliwood
Company of Heroes 2: The British Forces
Tales From The Borderlands: Episode 3 - Catch A Ride
Stasis
Shadowrun: Hong Kong
Galactic Civilizations III
The Book of Unwritten Tales 2
Axiom Verge
Westerado: Double Barreled
Tales From The Borderlands: Episode 4 - Escape Plan Bravo
Age of Wonders III - Eternal Lords
The Magic Circle
Order of Battle: Pacific
Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin
Life is Strange: Episode 3 - Chaos Theory
Total War: Attila
Volume
Frozen Cortex
Apotheon
Avernum 2: Crystal Souls
Hand of Fate
Magic Duels: Origins
Tales From The Borderlands: Episode 2 - Atlas Mugged
Deathtrap

The 25 titles in bold are on Linux or coming to Linux. Yes we are missing out on some pretty big titles (I'm still hoping) but it's not like we have no games to play.

Sounds impressive until you realize that 8 of the 10 top titles are not coming to Linux. Btw I don't know why you've included the Witcher III - the development of that port is effectively stalled. There is absolutely nothing indicating a Linux version is coming. Things are similar with Project Cars - they've already announced working on the sequel. So you can actually make that a 10/10. The only somewhat big releases of the rest are Pillars and Cities but both, while being amazing games, are a bit more niche and not exactly AAA.

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Quoting: zerothisThere seems to be a problem here. Announcing X number of games on Linux, or saying the best games have a Linux version, implies the idea Linux should be or is becoming more like Windows (Lots of games, Like Windows. Top selling games, like Windows). I meant think about it? Are we Linux users because it's like Windows or because it's different than Windows? How about focusing on the differences instead. Why should having a high percentage of games for niche markets be counted as negative? More Linux games fill a certain demand than Windows does, that's good! Lets list the differences:
More than any other platform, there are a higher percentage of games on Linux that have female authors and femaleprotagonist. In fact, Linux has the most games outright that have a Female protagonist (higher number, not just higher percentage) http://www.uvlist.net/groups/info/femaleprotagonist [External Link]
Your turn everybody, start naming things where Linux is better than Windows.

No, people use Linux as a tool. Doing things just to be different is what hipsters do. Everybody else want convenience.

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Quoting: GuestGeneric all: Feral write their code to work with nvidia's blobs. They don't care beyond that. In doing so, they write code that has performace issues if you stick to the opengl spec, because of (bad) hacks in nvidia's blobs.
The game will likely run on AMD hardware, using fglrx, but Feral won't support it and won't tweak their code to work properly.
....which is all the fault of Feral. We should be pressuring them to up their game, not give them a free pass for mediocre work. My own opinion anyway.

^ That

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Quoting: Pecisk

Quoting: maodzedunIndeed - the lack of AAA games on Linux is a big problem. And let us be honest - even the ports that are released are not exactly amazing. AMD performance aside, most ports, if not all simply provide sub par game performance compared to Windows. Even the better ports see 10 to 30, even 40% performance hit. That is a lot even in the best case scenario. Not to mention horrible releases like Dying Light.
The 1500 games sure can be used as a marketing trick by Valve but the sad truth is at this point Linux/SteamOS just has nothing to offer on the purely gaming front. In fact I'd go as far as say, that the Nvidia DX12 fiasco that will obviously stall DX12 game development with up to half an year, is probably the best thing to happen to Linux gaming this year. With the performance gains we've seen on Xbox One with Gears of War you can imagine the improvement on PC, thus adoption rate. Fortunately, for Linux games, it's unlikely we'll see any DX12 games/patches before Pascal cards.
In short - what appeal does a Steam Machine have at the moment? There is worse performance, a small library, lack of AAA games and Directx 12 is obviously way ahead of Vulcan at this point. And they're expensive. Like - very expensive. Not to mention the front runner of the litter cannot even upgrade its GPU (I'm looking at you Alienware). With things at their current state - console gamers will stick to consoles and PC games will just build something on their own and put Windows on it, just forcing it to boot in Big Picture mode.

So much complaining, so little facts.

Not to mention horrible releases like Dying Light.

Growing pains. Port was done by few guys with little time on their hands. They got their stuff together eventually. While not named WB game is still getting repaired 3 months after release.

Even the better ports see 10 to 30, even 40% performance hit.

Again, let's talk facts. Different cards have different performance. Classic recent Nvidia card like 760 GTX works reliably well, with good performance. Older cards and AMD is big issues vendors need to tackle.

In fact I'd go as far as say, that the Nvidia DX12 fiasco that will obviously stall DX12 game development with up to half an year, is probably the best thing to happen to Linux gaming this year.

Errr what. Seriously this is your argument for success or failure of DirectX12? First of all, DX12 is a buzz word, as Vulcan. For Windows to use low level APIs require seriously restructure how things are done on that platform. Due of how young Linux is to gaming, Vulcan will clearly give more benefits to Linux. There's also lack of pull to do DirectX12 ports - Windows 7 is still out there, Windows 8 is still out there. Vulcan will be available to all those platforms.

Directx 12 is obviously way ahead of Vulcan at this point

You know all major developers had access for Vulkan for all this time, don't you?

Seriously. Do some fact checking.

You do realize you're not quoting a lot of facts yourself, right? Feel free to check some performance comparison videos of Shadow of Mordor, Company of Heroes, Bioshock or any other Linux AAA port. The only game that shows equal performance thus far has been the beta or Arma III.

Growing pains. Port was done by few guys with little time on their hands. They got their stuff together eventually. While not named WB game is still getting repaired 3 months after release.

I'm not blaming anybody, but stating facts. The game used to run bad and stayed that way for a long time. And considering there are immensely fewer AAA releases on Linux the impact of a botched release is much more significant.

Again, let's talk facts. Different cards have different performance. Classic recent Nvidia card like 760 GTX works reliably well, with good performance. Older cards and AMD is big issues vendors need to tackle.

I've never said the performance was bad always. I said it was sub par compared to Windows. It you've dropped from 80 to 65 fps the game objectively will still be running smooth but you have a significant loss in performance none-the-less. Again - feel free to check youtube for some benchmarks.

Errr what. Seriously this is your argument for success or failure of DirectX12? First of all, DX12 is a buzz word, as Vulcan. For Windows to use low level APIs require seriously restructure how things are done on that platform. Due of how young Linux is to gaming, Vulcan will clearly give more benefits to Linux. There's also lack of pull to do DirectX12 ports - Windows 7 is still out there, Windows 8 is still out there. Vulcan will be available to all those platforms.

You do realize there are already two actual games using the DX12 API - Gears of War on Xbone and Ashes of Singularity on Windows. All we've seen so far from Vulkan is an Android benchmark comparison.

You may bury your head in the sand but facts are facts - Steam OS and Linux in general are not currently an appealing gaming platform. Things have improved a lot but there is still a lot of way for Linux to go before it can be a real competitor. Maybe things will suddenly change and come Christmas people will be buying Steam Machines like mad, but my prediction is come March next year Liam will be making an editorial about the low popularity of Steam Machines.

And just so you don't say I'm not providing any facts:

https://www.youtube.com/user/PenguinRecordings/videos [External Link]

Please watch all comparison videos.

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OMG this port from Feral doesn't support AMD and Intel... said no one ever. Remind me why everybody hates VP again?

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: maodzedunIn short - what appeal does a Steam Machine have at the moment? There is worse performance, a small library, lack of AAA games and Directx 12 is obviously way ahead of Vulcan at this point. And they're expensive. Like - very expensive. Not to mention the front runner of the litter cannot even upgrade its GPU (I'm looking at you Alienware). With things at their current state - console gamers will stick to consoles and PC games will just build something on their own and put Windows on it, just forcing it to boot in Big Picture mode.

It seems you try to judge the appeal to console gamers by comparing Steam Machines to Windows PCs.

For a PC, a Steam Machine has sub par performance and few games and GPU on some cannot be replaced.

For a console, it has good performance and a huge amount of games on day 1 and on some you even can change the GPU!

No, actually I'm comparing them to both a Windows PC and a console. The Steam Machines in the console price range just plain suck. You don't get a much better performance, you get a slightly improved one with a hardware that is basically dated out of the box. If you're on a console budget and you need a gaming device - get a PS4. Truth is you need about 50% bigger budget for a good gaming PC to last you some time.
And also - I'm well aware there are some Steam Machines that can have their GPU's replaced. But the one we already have, that will most likely be the most popular - cannot. I never said there were no Steam Machines that cannot have their graphics cards replaces.

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Indeed - the lack of AAA games on Linux is a big problem. And let us be honest - even the ports that are released are not exactly amazing. AMD performance aside, most ports, if not all simply provide sub par game performance compared to Windows. Even the better ports see 10 to 30, even 40% performance hit. That is a lot even in the best case scenario. Not to mention horrible releases like Dying Light.
The 1500 games sure can be used as a marketing trick by Valve but the sad truth is at this point Linux/SteamOS just has nothing to offer on the purely gaming front. In fact I'd go as far as say, that the Nvidia DX12 fiasco that will obviously stall DX12 game development with up to half an year, is probably the best thing to happen to Linux gaming this year. With the performance gains we've seen on Xbox One with Gears of War you can imagine the improvement on PC, thus adoption rate. Fortunately, for Linux games, it's unlikely we'll see any DX12 games/patches before Pascal cards.
In short - what appeal does a Steam Machine have at the moment? There is worse performance, a small library, lack of AAA games and Directx 12 is obviously way ahead of Vulcan at this point. And they're expensive. Like - very expensive. Not to mention the front runner of the litter cannot even upgrade its GPU (I'm looking at you Alienware). With things at their current state - console gamers will stick to consoles and PC games will just build something on their own and put Windows on it, just forcing it to boot in Big Picture mode.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismThis always struct me as a Window Shopper game, one that looks good on display but isn't that fun, practical or awesome once you buy it.

I hope to hear feedback contrary as AOW3 looks very interesting but IRL I think that 0 A.D. is likely more fun and it's not even complete yet.

It sort of is actually. Maybe because I can't shake the urge to play it as Heroes even though it's much closer to Civ. For one or another reason, I never really managed to get into it. I'd much prefer Endless Legend got a Linux port. I find it vastly superior in every aspect, except the battles.

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Quoting: Sabun

Quoting: maodzedunI use this REPO - it's Oibaf + LLVM3.7:

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa [External Link]

I don't mean to be a bother, but can you list out the steps you took to install this PPA and unlock OpenGL 4 support?

I'm on an R9 390 (Hawaii) card, and with this PPA I am still stuck at OpenGL 3 on Ubuntu 15.04 64bit.

To be honest I haven't tested it lately. Ever since I got a second 290x I've been booting up Linux less and less.

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