Quoting: jamesc359

Quoting: maodzedunI have an 4790k, how can that be a bottleneck for anything - last I checked this is the most powerful per core consumer grade CPU on the market. And for the record - I got around to installing the latest driver (after jumping some hoops of course) and I see a noticeable improvement in the Witcher 2 performance. And considering it's also an eON game, I'm guessing the problem is exactly the crappy driver that holds my Bioshock fps down.

You could have a super computer and it wouldn't change the fact that it's an eON game.

And how would you explain the fact people with 970s - a card ith very similar overall performance are able to play BioShock at 60 fps on ultra?

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Quoting: MaelraneI really wonder if the new AMD hardware is supported so badly, because my old HD6950 (2GB) runs Borderlands perfectly fine on Linux with the open source drivers.

(Both, BL2 and BL:TPS)

Of course it can't run Bioshock Infinite.

From what I gather - yes. 290/290x and Tonga GPUs get the worst support. At least Tonga will benefit from AMDGPU kernel, but I think the rest of the 2** series along with all of these re-brands in the 3** will still get crappy drier support no matter what AMD would have you believe.

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NOT.GOING.TO.HAPPEN.EVER!!! :))). There will be a rain gold before Bethesda ports Fallout 4 to Linux (especially as a day one release).

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Quoting: jamesc359

Quoting: maodzedunIs that why Bioshock drops to 30fps on medium in open spaces for me? Must be the insane performance I get from my 290x. Meanwhile in Windows I'm downscaling The Witcher 2 from 1440p and Planetside 2 from 4K and average over 60fps in both game. Please, AMD performance sucks big time. If I was intent on using Linux exclusively I wound't buy an AMD card if they gave me money to do it. Right now, a user who wants to game in Linux using AMD hardware has two choices - either use a crappy proprietary blob that provides 50% performance AT BEST if you're lucky and brings a number of bugs on the table, OR use the open source drivers which also bring sub par performance, lack proper GUI and come with various bugs, as well. Man, I'm truly shocked that no manufacturer would build a Steam Machine around these energy inefficient and heat producing GPUs that have been having inherently bad drivers for year. And don't even get me started on crossfire support.

No, that's because Bioshock is an eON title and your CPU is bottle necking your performance. That's hardly AMD's fault.

I have an 4790k, how can that be a bottleneck for anything - last I checked this is the most powerful per core consumer grade CPU on the market. And for the record - I got around to installing the latest driver (after jumping some hoops of course) and I see a noticeable improvement in the Witcher 2 performance. And considering it's also an eON game, I'm guessing the problem is exactly the crappy driver that holds my Bioshock fps down.

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Quoting: jamesc359@AMD haters; have any of you used AMD's latest drivers? I have and I have to say they've made a lot of improvements regarding both performance and stability. So before you continue to bash them with outdated information, perhaps you should open your mind to the posibility that things can change.

Is that why Bioshock drops to 30fps on medium in open spaces for me? Must be the insane performance I get from my 290x. Meanwhile in Windows I'm downscaling The Witcher 2 from 1440p and Planetside 2 from 4K and average over 60fps in both game. Please, AMD performance sucks big time. If I was intent on using Linux exclusively I wound't buy an AMD card if they gave me money to do it. Right now, a user who wants to game in Linux using AMD hardware has two choices - either use a crappy proprietary blob that provides 50% performance AT BEST if you're lucky and brings a number of bugs on the table, OR use the open source drivers which also bring sub par performance, lack proper GUI and come with various bugs, as well. Man, I'm truly shocked that no manufacturer would build a Steam Machine around these energy inefficient and heat producing GPUs that have been having inherently bad drivers for year. And don't even get me started on crossfire support.

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And that is why I haven't gamed in Linux for months. I'd gladly pop in Linux to play out of principle but somewhere between AMD's CRAP drivers and the developers not supporting their hardware I just had enough. I truly hope all Nvidia gamers can enjoy this title in Linux, but I'm 100% playing it in Windows. Just as with Borderlands I know it will never get an official AMD support and I'm also positive AMD won't be able to pull their sh*t in the next 12 months if ever.

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No love for East Europe, as usual. I just want the controller. Couldn't care less about the overpriced Steam Machines or the Link (which is cool but I just don't need it).

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Quoting: MGOidThe performance for me isn't good. I'm using the radeonsi driver in a R9 290

There's your problem right there. I'm sorry, but the current state of affair is that ATI on Linux is a no-go. Sure, the Source engine may run well on it (apparently), but it should be widespread knowledge by now that ATI is not a valid alternative if one want gaming with a decent performance on Linux.
Unfortunately!

Agreed. I virtually have stopped gaming on Linux altogether - my 290x acts like it's my old 5770. In Windows I can downsample the Witcher 2 from 1440p which combined with FXAA makes for virtually un-aliased, sharp image, maxed everything out (no ubersamplign though) and forced Tessellation and Anisotropic Filthering, use dynamic V-sync from RadeonPro and still have solid 60fps (except for cutscenes but they're bugged). At the same time in Linux the game runs like I'm playing it on a potato with texture rendering glitches all over the place (mesa 10.7+llvm 3.7 + kernel 4.1 RC3) and still that beats the proprietary driver. I'm sorry but at the moment, it you have an AMD card, especially 290/290x - game on Windows. I can hardly find the experience in Linux enjoyable. And with AMD's AMGGPU kernel being exclusive for the new architecture and knowing AMD's track record, I'm 99.99% sure they'll just throw all of their other customers (i.e. 95%+) under the bus saying something on the line: "Yeah, well, you know - we're trying to concentrate on bringing the best possible user experience for the upcoming cards and are very excited about the great features we'll be able to provide to gamers. Here at AMD we're dedicated to providing our users with the best and most immersive gaming experience blah, blah, blah..."

PS They won't...

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It's only logical. There are too few AAA releases, even fewer first day releases and virtually no stable such. The Linux triple A game market consists of 3-4 aging game ports (quite buggy upon release) and a lot of vague promises.

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Quoting: maodzedunWorst case scenario - they'll drop official support for Ubuntu, which they won't, especially if Samsung ends up buying AMD.

I guess I'm out of the loop here. What is the connection between Ubuntu and Samsung/AMD?

I was under the erronous impression that Samsung will be putting out Ubuntu phones. Ignore that statement of mine.

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