Quoting: gabberIt's not gaming on linux, it's gaming on stadia because unlike on steam, your purchase won't be counting as a linux-sale. Capitalism is democracy where money is your vote.
Call me elitist all you want, but for me Gaming on Linux (GOL) is if it runs on my Linux rig. Heck, I would consider Android games on my Phone more GOL then Stadia.

Well, GOL is whatever I make of it ;)

Silly stuff aside, I consider anything played on Linux to be Linux Gaming. If you're booting up Linux to do it, then it's all fair game. I do wish people could move past arguing on that, it's another stupid thing that other platforms just don't care about. People just want to play games and for some reason lots of Linux people like to argue about what is and isn't for us, it's tiring. So...you do you :)

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Quoting: t3gI forgot Stafia existed. There was a real circle jerk from the GOL team that it was Linux gaming but it wasn’t. A locked down server only experience and developers didn’t use that Vulkan experience in being games to Linux.

Either you don't know what a circle jerk is, or you perhaps just don't know what a circle is. The core GOL team is just Liam, who has covered both positive and extremely negative articles on Stadia, around just one a week, throughout its life. That's a pretty small circle.

Even if you include the contributing editors, the only one who has really expressed an opinion on Stadia, is me. And I didn't (and still don't generally) like it.

I guess you just don't like news you don't agree with?

Yeah, that was a thoroughly weird take on how I covered Stadia. I wrote about it in the same way I write about any new thing here. I covered it with initial impressions, new games coming to it and major updates to it, often in a round-up with multiple things so I wasn't writing individually about every little thing.

Think I only actually "reviewed" two games on it too (Orcs Must Die! 3 and Embr.

Hardly circle jerk? I also covered a lawsuit on it, the Terraria debacle, them shutting their development studios and so on. As for the comment on it being Linux gaming: if you game, and it's on Linux, it's Linux gaming. I thought we settled this a long time ago, guess there's still many elitists lurking about.

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Quoting: GuestThe sad thing is that Stadia still runs rings around the competition in terms of the technology and performance of the games. The UX is so much better than Geforce Now and Xbox Cloud Gaming too. The competition just wins on the games available.

Yup, agreed, Stadia is still the most streamlined approach.

Quoting: GuestI actually think what held it back from attracting game publishers is linux and vulkan. It probably would have had a better time attracting big publishers with a Windows based solution since the effort of putting games on the service would have been lower. I expect to get a lot of flak from linux stans for that opinion but it needs saying.

Not sure why anyone would disagree really, the technical side of that is 100% true. Porting to a new platform and API takes a lot more time than adjusting a Windows release to talk to Stadia services.

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Quoting: questioner9Last month or so Liam did an article on the top 100 most popular Steam games working status on Linux and some games did not work because DRM was not supported on Proton.

Does this news about CEG DRM mean all DRMs used for those games are now working with Proton? Or are there more DRMs still?

None of the top 100 used CEG, as it's an older DRM.

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Quoting: BeamboomIs it gatekeeping to say that not everyone should be placed behind the wheels of a Formel 1 car? Is it gatekeeping to say that some products require more of a user than others, or that they are meant for different segments of the market? Is it really gatekeeping to mean anything else other than that everything should be made for everyone and everyone should be able to use everything?

This is a false comparison, and not one you can really make against much in this situation. We're not talking about a specialised field in any way - this is general purpose computing. Honestly, for those who don't like it - just stick to your terminal and be happy? Let the rest of us work on letting people enjoying Linux in general without something breaking ;)

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I won't comment on the rest again because it really is gatekeeping elitism IMO. Linux can be for everyone.

Quoting: BeamboomThose who just want a consumer box to do their gaming on - why on earth should they install Linux to begin with

Lots of reasons, including it being free and open source? Duh.

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Quoting: AussieEeveeThere is a tiny little warning blended in with all the other white noise on the screen, and blaming Linus is just silly.

TINY? lol - dude, there's TWO explicit warnings, very clearly put, AND info on what exact packages are about to be installed, AND you're asked to type a bloody SENTENCE to get through with it.
If that ain't clear enough then you're not really mature to use a system that gives you full control.

With great powers comes great responsibilities - and that goes for the package managers too. Most definitely.

But if you're after a OS that completely PADS you inside a fuzzy box where you can do nothing to harm you - well then Linux is not, was never and hopefully never will be your right choice.

It's a real shame to see such elitist nonsense being posted here. It's techno jargon in the errors, crammed around lots of overloading info that even "power users" screw up on. There is a reason why the term "sane defaults" even exists. Unless we want Linux on the desktop to continue to be gated by zealots and remain irrelevant, we have to appeal to users who don't have the time and patience to relearn every single thing and study all error messages, just to stop their system breaking.

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Quoting: NociferDon't know if it was intentional or not, but this tidbit here kind of blatantly equates "Linus Sebastian" to "idiot", heh :P

Eh it's a standard saying, does not mean the person is an idiot at all https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/idiot-proof [External Link]

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Quoting: mylkai guess windows version+proton is still faster than zink, right?

I'm certainly curious on it. However, I can't imagine the difference being too much, considering the high performance already shown for Zink here and they're both translating one API to the same Vulkan.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeHe literally tried a command on a page, it gave him a big ol' warning that essential packages were going to be removed. He typed in the 'Yes I know what I'm doing' even though he clearly did not, and nuked Xorg while it was running. Not sure how that is any fault of apt. But I do find it amusing that I saw the changelog for this change last night as I updated my laptop. Gave me a chuckle.

The fault is definitely with APT, IMO.

It spews out loads of information, all cramped together at once and then mentions you can enter a command. It's really not user friendly, not that the CLI is overly friendly to begin with. I see this is a real positive change.

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