Quoting: BlackBloodRumWell, for my desktop I've been using Fedora for so long it feels like forever. However, I tend to pick the best distro for the job.

These days for example I have "less important" servers running Debian stable, and more critical servers running RHEL (actual RHEL, not CentOS since the whole shakeup) meanwhile my laptop runs Arch (This one has broken a few times..).

Generally if a system is extremely critical it will be running an enterprise grade OS.

As for my personal desktop, I do prefer to have something quite a bit newer in terms of kernel and mesa, I mean if I tried running my ATI Radeon 5600 XT on Debian stable or RHEL it probably wouldn't be such a great experience, which is stable on Fedora 33 (but not 32).. except for the whole XFCE crashing thing.. which I thought was a kernel or mesa thing until I tried a different UI lol.

With that said, I've never had to reinstall my Fedora systems. Things have broken, mostly nvidia stuff, which is why I went ATI Radeon this time round. Since going ATI I've not really had anything break yet aside from the UI crashing, but it's been doing that since I built my system late last year.

Debian Stable would be fine, you'd most likely just need to install the newer kernel through the backports repo. Debian has gotten a lot better in that respect the last release or two.

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Quoting: AkonadySo what really is the graphics about in this game?

They wanted to go for the look of a PS1 game, from my understanding.

I've only seen one Draugr that was stuck in stone, but fortunately he was not an archer. When I returned to the area, he'd popped out of the rock, and was easily dispatched. Though we did beat Yagluth last night. Now our plan is to go through all the bosses a second time so we can hang their heads around our keep!

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I have never understood why people use Fedora on anything that they wish to remain stable. It always seems to break mid-cycle for me, and in terribly fun ways that require a re-install.

It is the only distribution I have seen that will change kernel versions within the same version that claims to be a not rolling release. I think the longest I have been able to keep it working for on a system was a month on a tablet for me before a huge glaring bug appeared on it and I ended up installing something else.

It is a nice system out of the box when a new version is released, it just breaks as they update things. Like RHEL will generally not bump versions and will stick with the same version over the course of its life cycle with backporting patches. This is the reason RHEL is used everywhere for serious stuff.

I guess now that Centos Stream is a thing, maybe Fedora will be more stable though.

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Quoting: BlackBloodRumTo be fair, flatpak/snapchat on the RPM side are not the only options either, we have OpenSUSEs build system which allows (almost) anyone to create packages suitable for various RPM based distros.

OBS supports building for Debian based systems as well. That is where the lutris package was up until recently when it was uploaded to Debian Sid.

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So how does this compare to Valheim?

It is funny, whenever I think of Survival games, I think of Robinson's Requiem and Deus.
These two games truly give you the feel of being out in the wilderness and trying to survive. You can fall, and instead of taking generic damage, you break your ankles or legs. You can get cuts that get infected and you have to amputate...
Would be amazing if someone recreated these phenomenal games.

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: NociferSomebody should inform them post-haste about a certain little thingy called the AUR.

(j/k, I know that this is all marketing, and marketing describes the world how you wish it to look like for your target audience, not how it really is.)

Granted, AUR isn't exactly an official repository, and I wonder what percentage of them are unmaintained or duplicates. That's always been my problem with AUR, it's convenient in many ways, but at the same time you shouldn't blindly trust installing things from it (though you can argue that you shouldn't blindly install stuff anyhow...), and most of the time need to look at patches applied, and hope that the person who made the PKGBUILD will continue to support newer versions / build reqs. It can especially become messy when you always have $pkgname and $pkgname-git, I've even seen it where some still are $pkgname-svn with all three in the AUR...

That's very true, I maintain a few AUR packages myself so I've been frustrated with what you describe multiple times, both as a user and as a packager. But even if you remove all the unmaintained, duplicate or just plain badly packaged packages from the AUR, it still contains tons of stuff that you can't as easily find in most other distros. And in my opinion, since the AUR itself as a repo is a creation of the Arch developers, and since it operates through Arch's own server infrastructure, and since it utilizes Arch's own package building process (the PKGBUILDs), and since there's even official guidelines on the Arch Wiki on how to properly build and package an AUR package, I'd reckon it's integrated enough to count as an official part of the distro.

Now let's see: Zorin claim they have "support for Snaps, Flatpaks with Flathub, the Ubuntu and Zorin OS APT repositories and that's on top of supporting installs from .deb and AppImage packages too". Snaps, Flatpaks and AppImages all work across practically every distro out there, Arch included, so they're nothing special. Ubuntu APT repo and .deb packages? Well, Zorin is an Ubuntu derived distro, so of course they're going to be supporting Ubuntu and Debian packages, so nothing special about that as well. Zorin APT repo? Wow, so they even have their own private repo, color me surprised!

So I maintain the position that when it comes to the amount of packages, Zorin is just like any other distro, and like most other distros it still lacks the AUR :P

I should start a menu project for Debian where you can search through it and there are build scripts that fetch the source repo, installs the dependencies, then compiles the software. This would be basically the same as AUR for debian based systems, but would respect binary vs source compiled, as it would install by default in /usr/local/ Not a terrible idea, and would make Debian have even more stuff for it. :)

AUR is awesome, and I don't want to say it's a terrible idea, it's actually awesome and it's my second OS on my tri-boot system (which is Debian / Arch / Windows 10). But I think the idea of 'most packages' should be 'most binary packages'. But ZorinOS is wrong there anyhow, as Debian and all their forks also support Snap / Flatpak / AppImages, so not sure why they think they're special.

Arch also supports all of that as well :P Well I'm pretty sure it also supports snaps, but who would want them?

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Quoting: NociferSomebody should inform them post-haste about a certain little thingy called the AUR.

(j/k, I know that this is all marketing, and marketing describes the world how you wish it to look like for your target audience, not how it really is.)

Granted, AUR isn't exactly an official repository, and I wonder what percentage of them are unmaintained or duplicates. That's always been my problem with AUR, it's convenient in many ways, but at the same time you shouldn't blindly trust installing things from it (though you can argue that you shouldn't blindly install stuff anyhow...), and most of the time need to look at patches applied, and hope that the person who made the PKGBUILD will continue to support newer versions / build reqs. It can especially become messy when you always have $pkgname and $pkgname-git, I've even seen it where some still are $pkgname-svn with all three in the AUR...

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It is games like this why I stopped (almost) getting anything that is in EA. Basically if I like the ifldea, I will put it on the wishlist.
I can't remember, does the wishlist show the dev that it is there, and does it show preferred OS?

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Quoting: JustClaws

Quoting: slaapliedjeMy thought at this point is that Indie studios that ALREADY have Linux native games should reach out to Atari and start getting things published on their store while it's still in a 'starved for games' level.
I mean how many games did we have ported over right away once Steam was available?

It's not necessary to buy a devkit, or even a VCS, to develop a game which can run on VCS.
https://atarivcs.com/developer [External Link]
https://atarivcs.medium.com/guidance-for-atari-vcs-content-developers-go-760d5522370d [External Link]

Cheers, Richard.

Ha, I didn't know you floated around on this forum too. I always wonder how many Linux fans are Atari fans.

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Ha, for all of those wanting a copy of this game given to them. I propose a contest. Make me an awesome Linux based wallpaper that is 3840x1200, and I'll buy you a copy, gifted to your SteamID.

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