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Quoting: dubigrasuI'm pretty sure many will do that, basically almost all the Steam Machines (old and new) were stripped of SteamOS and went full Windows, the same with many Atari machines.
The poor game selection was definitely a factor for that, and hopefully it will be not the case for Steam Deck, but many gamers are enthusiast tinkerers and installing a familiar and proven OS is the least of their worries.

Hm. While I'd be confident to change OS on a Steam Machine - a PC box -, I'd be less confident to do so on a specialized integrated system like the Steam Deck.

I think Valve could easily swy people here. I would agree with you if valve's message was "yes you can install windows but it's not supported" which casts doubts in people. But they actually say "can you install windows? Big resounding yes, [no worries, will definitely work]" which makes people confident they could do it.

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Quoting: Guesti have a feeling MS is trying to win over linux users :neutral:

The truth is microsoft is losing on many fronts. The one thing they have a lead on (windows) is slowly losing shares to Android and iOS. This is more of a survival move; they are focusing on cloud for one thing, and more cross-platform and/or open soirce software for another. In the particular case of Edge, the only point is to have users default to bing instead of google for search (which is a major source of income for the latter), and no one is going to use Edge if they can't also use it everywhere else (because of browser sync).

Make no mistake, there isn't any good will or "love" coming from microsoft.

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Quoting: MohandevirEdit: And your Stadia exemple is a bad one... I'm quite satisfied with it.

I was mostly referring to people speculating and arriving at the assumption that it would be the netflix of gaming. The dissappointment was immense for most people, even though Google never said it was going to be the netflix of gaming.

I'm not saying steampal is not a device that runs games locally, it probably is, jusy advising against assuming stuff :)

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Don't do the same thing you did with Stadia people. You're making speculations, building expectations then hyping each other about it. Then you get disappointed when the device does not meet those expectations.

For all we know, this could basically be a steam link paired with a controller. It's a "pal", so maybe it's supposed to pair with a PC/seever where the game actually runs.

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If any of devs see this, you might be interested in implementing ANGLE's extension on top of this, which allows the image usage and create flags to be passed from vk to gl. Otherwise the gl implementation has to assume all flags are used, and flags like MUTABLE and STORAGE are detrimental to performance (disallowing framebuffer compression).

https://chromium.googlesource.com/angle/angle/+/refs/heads/main/extensions/ANGLE_external_objects_flags.txt [External Link]

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Why not just ... manufacture more cards?!

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I finally got it into playing oxygen not included (in a way that I can actually manage to get by), and that's after hours of youtube watching and wiki reading.

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Quoting: lelorrainIt works only one way with Steam. A good example is the large discount Steam offered recently on "Horizon Zero Dawn", but it was NOT discounted on GOG, still at the initial Cdn$60 which was the same as on Steam ... :sad:

See the post above that leaked a piece of the policy. It says they don't want to create disadvantage to Steam users, so if publisher offers discount elsewhere, they should do it on Steam too.

If the publisher offers discount on Steam but not GOG, really it's on them for being unfair. You can't really expect Steam to force them to put the game on sale on GOG because it went on sale on Steam.

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I don't think the claim that thay you can't sell cheaper elsewhere is true even *with* steam key. Back when humble bundle actually had good bundles, I most certainly bought bundles for 20$ (a good deal of which went to charity) *and* got steam keys for ~10 games each.

I only buy on steam now, because yes they absolutely deserve their cut with all the work they are doing for Linux graphics. And if it wasn't for steam, they'd all be stuck in a windows store monopoly with no escape, so drop the lawsuit man, stop wasting everyone's time.

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Quoting: RandomizedKirbyTree47Which means Stadia has an advertising problem. If only there was a multi-trillion dollar ad company that could help them! Oh, wait, there is. Google is the one company that ought to be able to turn around any advertising failure. The fact that Stadia has an advertising problem, IMO, means the higher-ups at Google aren't taking it seriously.

To be fair, google has an advertising problem for all its products (so I don't think it means a lack of seriousness). Yes, it's an advertising company, but that means they have the infrastructure to get other companies' ads to people. It doesn't mean they know how to make ads themselves.

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