I don't know how many of you know of this but Evgueni made this huge compilation of Steam reviews that are by Linux users and mention how the game runs on Linux [External Link], etc. It seems reasonable to mention it here. I understand the numbers are more important that the quality of the review, at least from the publishers point of view, but there are few that make you think about the game you played in a different light and I think it portrays how great reviews can be. So, maybe, it's just a thought, but maybe, instead of discussing whether it'll really help or not each of us will sit down for that 15 minutes tonight, think about a game and really say what they liked about it, what they didn't, if they had fun and if they had issues, and post it? Won't hurt anyone and might give you joy, who knows.

Other than that, if you wrote a review from a Linuxer's perspective that isn't included in Evgueni's compilation, give him a shout (you can propose the category up front to make his job easier). And if you have a friend who's looking for the next game to beat on Linux, feel free to pass them the link. I find it a really good resource.

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Seems cool. Waiting for Steam release.

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Unrelated but happy cake day! @Liam

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Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: cprnWell, I did suffer a bug and went through a pain of downgrading my Nvidia driver because of their lack of concern for testing. ;) Who said it has to be physical? [...]

Excuse me for being anal-retentive about definitions, but it's part of my job. If you only care about the bold part, the word you're looking for may be indifferent or uncaring. You can't just take out the part about causing pain and suffering and say it still applies. And while I'm not arguing that suffering must be physical, I certainly reckon that the situation at hand has little chance of causing any level of distress to anyone.

Well, the definition includes "feeling no concern" about somebody's "pain and suffering" and as the two latter are subjective and the lack of concern about them can be guessed (by what words imply, as some comments here suggested) I think I could still prove my point but I feel like we're getting further and further away from the subject matter. Yes, you're right, definitions are important and both indifferent and uncaring work well in this context.

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Quoting: cprn

Quoting: SalvatosPain and suffering? Because a video game isn't getting proper support? Really?

Well, I did [...] went through a pain of downgrading my Nvidia driver [...]

My distro doesn't use the latest bleeding edge stuff and I suffered none of the issues people report despite using GNOME and NVIDIA I never suffered from double input or crashes/black screen/whatever, so can you really put the full blame on the developers like some have been doing(even if the developer can be a dick)?

Yes, users are supposed to use a supported environment and that includes driver version, however yes, I do blame the developer entirely because it's their lack of skill (or involvement) that's the reason the supported environment isn't specified and that no environment (at all) was tested by anyone else but the community (no proper QA, man). Also, Nvidia developers released a workaround that didn't find its way in the game (and all they had to do is add a freaking environment variable in their starting script). Also, as mentioned by other developers, a bug in the driver is in 99% of cases a bug in your code because you didn't read your renderer specification (was it OpenGL, Vulkan or DirectX, no difference) and as Facepunch uses Unity and the cause of the problem is known they could have disabled whatever feature of Unity caused it and rebuild for Linux. It's not the case of "there's nothing we can do", it's the case of "we'll do nothing and blame everyone else". That's the major criticism that I (and I think everyone here) have towards Mr Garry Newman's attitude.

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Quoting: SalvatosPain and suffering? Because a video game isn't getting proper support? Really?

Well, I did suffer a bug and went through a pain of downgrading my Nvidia driver because of their lack of concern for testing. ;) Who said it has to be physical?

All I did in that post is shown definitions relay on the point of view and the literal treatment of words so there's no point picking holes in what somebody said when the general understanding is enough. Besides, I made part about concern bold for a reason. Don't focus on the small print.

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OOT: Can you add a new action on GoL user profiles to follow them? Some readers have interesting points of view. I'd like to be notified when they post new comments.

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Quoting: F.UltraThere is nothing toxic with that, second class citizen in computer speak only means that it's a lower priority, it's not a derogatory term.

Lower priority is a derogatory term.

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I am personally disappointed in Liam Dawe for his statements against those that have been victimized by Garry over a number of years.

No one has been "victimized", do you even understand the meaning of that word? No one has been singled out and Facepunch aren't being cruel.

Really? The whole platform has been singled out and has been mistreated for years. Three years of no QA?

Quoting: dictionary.comcruel /krʊəl/ adjective
1. wilfully causing pain or suffering to others, or feeling no concern about it.

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Shoving away the touchy-feely aspect of this situation, this is exactly what should happen from the very beginning with every Linux game - whenever it's not shippable, it's not being shipped. Garry Newman, a guy whom I usually don't like very much, did a very responsible thing. It's not white and black, though. Maybe it would be even more responsible to avoid announcing Linux support in the first place since now he can't polish it because it doesn't concern 99.99% of Facepunch customers? It's not the issue of "Unity introduced bugs", it's the issue of "we didn't test on Linux with new engine version before investing time in other platforms", or worse, "we test on Linux and it didn't work but we released it anyway".

Above said, having an audacity to say we should know our place and most of us "understand their position in this world", that he felt abused by Linux users demanding equal treatment - this is what's wrong with the world nowadays. Nobody should demand equal treatment. Nobody's a 2nd class citizen. Treating somebody as one is the definition of abuse. He chose to release his games for Linux, got extra attention from Valve, from Steam users, from media, only to finally admit it's not something he knows how to support. It's admirable to admit own mistakes. Being salty because people defend themselves when your mistakes harm them is not.

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Prosopagnosia trait has been added to the game. You are bad with faces.

LOL. I've been diagnosed with prosopagnosia when I was 20. Never bothered me, didn't know I have it. Can't decide wether that trait is positive or negative. :D

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Wait... There's Frets on Fire X??? I'm still on IX! Need to update!

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