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Quoting: EhvisTo me the whole WSL thing is a curiosity. They made a Linux kernel work on Windows in a VM like manner, but what is the point? To have your Linux service go down with a windows update?

I don't think it's intended for production, but development. They want developers to stay using Visual Studio as it's really easy to deploy to Azure from there. (I haven't done this myself, but that's my understanding.)

That actually makes more sense. That would mean that Azure is the real product and WSL is just a means to an end.

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Quoting: Liam DaweIt must be getting a reasonably good adoption rate for MSFT to pour resources into it?

I've not worked in IT for a while now, but back when I did, the use case for this would be limited. Mostly some convenience for someone needing to test things on their own work desktop or maybe some cases where having a separate server for running Linux specific stuff would cost to much for the added reliability. But it still seems very niche to me. Maybe someone in current IT would have a better idea.

Quoting: amatai

Quoting: EhvisBut the landscape is different. EEE applied to things microsoft could control in some way. The battle fought against Linux was lost long ago and the foothold that Linux has in the total market is way too big for EEE to work. Sure they can do the first E. They can try to do the second E, but it is doomed to fail because it won't find significant adoption. Which means the third one is out of the question.

How it is lost? Microsoft still has monopoly in the personal computer market and a very sizeable part of the server market. (Don't underestimate Windows Server, None of the top 100 website use it but it still widely used thanks to lobbying in the schools of system administration). Microsoft Office is one of the most used software in the world (not on Linux) and there is lobbying from Microsoft not to make available some pro software on Linux (like Catia, Solidworks or Abacus).

Microsoft still has the user facing market obviously. Desktops and file servers are predominantly Windows. But they lost a lot of the back end stuff. They wanted to have the stuff that was traditionally done on Unix servers, but instead Linux took most of the market that was served by systems like SunOS/Solaris, HP-UX and IRIX. Microsoft tried some EEE on the webserver market by means of ASP and stuff like that, but eventually failed. Even on the professional software you mentioned Linux is still very much there. I use ABAQUS daily and both the graphical front end and the actual solvers are still very much available for Linux. The only victims of support have been the other unix systems that used to be kings. At the end of the day, people keep doing what they're used to. Which is why Microsoft's hold on the desktop is hard to break, but it also works the other way around.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Ehvis

How long before extinguish phase starts?

Never. Not because they don't want to, but because the importance of Linux as a whole is way bigger that than the worst-of-both-worlds WSL system can ever be. It simply doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Never say never when it's Microsoft. Changed in some ways, not at all in others ;)

You could argue that trying to pull developers from Linux to stick with Windows, and just use WSL for ML/AI/CUDA is part of an extinguish strategy. It is when you think of it quite literally, as keeping people on WSL where they control it. All depends on your point of view and what we're referencing when we say extinguish.

But the landscape is different. EEE applied to things microsoft could control in some way. The battle fought against Linux was lost long ago and the foothold that Linux has in the total market is way too big for EEE to work. Sure they can do the first E. They can try to do the second E, but it is doomed to fail because it won't find significant adoption. Which means the third one is out of the question.

To me the whole WSL thing is a curiosity. They made a Linux kernel work on Windows in a VM like manner, but what is the point? To have your Linux service go down with a windows update? Making things dependent on two systems instead of one is a guaranteed way to make it less reliable. As a whole WSL actually looks the same as Stadia. Sure, there is a narrow niche that might see an advantage in it and would use it, but it is not objectively better and will therefore be ignored by the big crowds.

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How long before extinguish phase starts?

Never. Not because they don't want to, but because the importance of Linux as a whole is way bigger that than the worst-of-both-worlds WSL system can ever be. It simply doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

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I got this game for €4 when it had three courses. I never thought this game would grow to 12 courses of 18 holes. They could have squeezed a couple of DLC out of me for that.

Still rough. Especially the newer courses, but in time all graphical issues do appear to get resolved, so I'm hoping that will happen with the newer ones as well.

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MMO is pretty much the biggest warning sign a game can have for me. The best outcome now would be that it's not actually true.

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Quoting: Patolaa) You do not sell or otherwise commercialise the Work or Derivative Works as a
Game Engine Product; and

Any software that has the dreaded "NC" (Non-Commercial) restriction is by definition not open source [External Link]. I must add that people that try to prevent the huge benefit of using the code for profit do not understand the very idea of open source. Commercial gain is the most important incentive for people to work on the code and the best leverage for it to be popular.

This is a peculiar one. They don't allow you to make a derived game engine a commercial product, but they do allow you to make a commercial product using a derived game engine. Is this really a problem for free software?

Is it allowed to make a fork of GCC and sell the resulting product?

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Quoting: scaineIt's got a very Firewatch-y vibe, at least graphically. I love a good narrative adventure, even if it's a walking sim, and this looks like it'll be much more than that. Love it. I've wishlisted and will likely buy this (the main game) when it appears.

Doesn't really look like Firewatch to me actually. Firewatch was stylised but not low-poly and often breathtakingly beautiful. However, even with that, Firewatch was still carried by the dialogue. Those are pretty big shoes to fill. At least a short prologue should give us an idea of what they'll be shooting for.

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Quoting: FaalhaasTested Half-Life: Alyx native, but my NVIDIA causes more stuttering in Linux than in our beloved Windows :). So I am hoping buying an AMD will solve that my next hardware upgrade.

By the way, shouldn't Steam list Half-Life: Alyx [External Link] as a Linux (Steam Play) game now?

All I can suggest for nvidia is to choose settings so that 99.9% of your frame times fall within the HMD refresh rate. Setting it to 80 Hz can help with that and is still plenty smooth. Otherwise you can reduce the rendering resolution (which defaults to 150%) or in-game settings. Second is to select legacy reprojection for the game (and all games). As far as I can tell, legacy will just skip a frame if a frame time is missed. This is not great, but massive better than whatever mess reprojection is trying to put on the display (which looks more like two frames blended together). And also why you want to frame times to be consistently good. If you can get that set up, it's perfectly fine. And it's actually not that hard on Alyx because the game is very well optimised for high fps.

They might consider the game to be in beta and let it be thoroughly tested before putting it on the store.

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Obviously Half-Life: Alyx. Only played a little bit on Proton, so it was time to start for real now. Hands down the best VR game so far. It looks fantastic (which is quite rare in VR) and runs smooth as silk.

Other than that I've been sampling loads of unplayed games.

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