Man, I'd love to play Deathloop. I wish they'd hurry up and ditch Denuvo from that title. Weird that so many Arkane Studio games end up with that shit on them. Bethesda (/Microsoft) at least know quality when they see it. Just a shame they're also bought into the whole "but but but PIRACY!!" fallacy.

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: PublicNuisanceChicken and the egg. If gamers don't support FOSS games how will they ever get to be on par ?

I don't think that's even possible. FOSS works on timeless products that can be worked on (and used) for many years. Most games are very much a quick turn around thing with a limited lifespan. It requires a lot of effort in a relatively short time which can't reasonably be set up as a FOSS environment.

Well you can believe what you want but I believe one can either be part of the solution or part of the problem. If people are angry about a closed source game closing down it's servers but won't try to help support FOSS alternatives that wouldn't have that issue then I have zero sympathy when they whine about it. They continue to give money to the companies screwing them over and want to whine about how they continue to screw them over. Insansity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Wow, your tone. So condescending. No-one is "whining" - not a single person on this thread could be considered to be whining. And what are you suggesting exactly - that we all stop buying proprietary games and only "buy" (presumably, offer support to) FOSS games?? No-one... not a single person... is going to do that.

Because nothing is ever as black or white as you're making out. I buy my Steam games, and I enjoy playing them. Ain't gonna stop doing that. But I'm also a patreon supporter of Godot Engine and Wine-Staging (and Wikimedia, and a handful of other good causes), and I've bought a few games on Steam that are free elsewhere, like Tales of Maj'Eyal.

But what really gets me with your attitude is that I don't even KNOW how to better support FOSS gaming and you've offered nothing specific. Liam maintains a list of free games on this very site, but none of them have particularly well established, obvious ways to support them. Some only want contributors, some might want money, but often don't have an easy way to take donations. Some simply want publicity. Even a super-star FOSS game like SuperTux doesn't take money on its steam page [External Link]. Pretty frustrating.

It would be great if these projects just spun up an Itch.io page and stuck their games under PWYW. But it doesn't look like many do, so in practical terms, how on earth does someone "support FOSS alternatives".

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Quoting: PublicNuisanceI notice you say unfair and not inaccurate. Not to mention that this is another example of why having servers run by players is better than by publishers. The cost would be on the players but the game would only die when the last of the players stop playing.

The best games have both, such as Grim Dawn, where there's a league of centrally managed servers providing progression and match-making, but you can also just host a game directly through Steam's multiplayer.

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Looks like Core Keeper [External Link] has just gone into Early Access if anyone wanted to give a more polished version a shot. I'm also still waiting on Ixion [External Link] making a similar announcement!

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Quoting: fleskAccording to a Wayback Machine snapshot from 2021-02-02 [External Link], the Linux version on Itch was untested, which might explain why they decided against releasing it on Steam. If they release a native Linux version in the future though, I'll buy it.

And of course, there's Liam (:grin:), commenting that he tried the untested build and the only issue was the codec used for videos in-game. Shame the dev decided to push on single platform. Hopefully, they'll bite the bullet, although I suppose with recent comments stating that it works okay with Proton, they might just not bother - the argument against Proton that's been made by some.

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Quoting: eldarionMore about steam deck itself and less about actual games.

I didn't understand. I still don't honestly. Maybe I need to try to breathe deeply, that'll help.

Perhaps I just don't really know what you mean by PR articles. Public Relations... articles? Like you think this site is over-promoting the Deck somehow? In that case, we'll agree to differ. As I said above, I'm loving all the Deck content. After the failure of the Steam Machines, seeing the Deck off to a flying start is incredibly exciting. It's great (to me) reading about the interface, battery, heat, custom Mangohud, new BPM interface, performance. The games (to me) are less interesting because as long as they nail the controls and compensate text for the tiny screen, it's as you point out - just a handheld PC.

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Went to buy this and discovered that not only did I already own it, I appear to have spent 10 hours levelling up the mage character!?

Okay. Played another few hours last night and it didn't ring a single bell, so presumably I bought it in EA, or something. Or I've just played too many games. Or both.

Anyway, great fun, highly recommended. Think "Dicey Dungeons" but with more RNG in the adventures themselves.

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Quoting: NezchanHopefully they'll release an actual Linux version soon. The original version on itch had native support, and as far as I'm aware there hasn't been any big changes to the engine.

I don't think so - the Prototype is still available on Itch [External Link], but is Windows-only and appears to have been so since its inception (there are several comments asking for both Linux and Mac versions there). The GOG version [External Link] is also Windows only.

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This looks really, really like Islanders [External Link] - which is a good thing. Think I actually prefer this approach, where the tiles dictate placement, instead of trying to position stuff to pixel-perfect precision for maximum effect.

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Quoting: Eike

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Quoting: eldarionI really hope this fever will pass (no offense to the Steam Deckers out there).

I hope it doesn't. It's one of the biggest things to ever help Linux gaming as a whole, and any games I write about would work on a Linux desktop too.

Only time will tell. It's just that recently the news here looked too much as a Valve PR satalite then a Linux gaming news site. More about steam deck itself and less about actual games.

Don't you think a successful dedicated gaming device running Linux and hundreds, soon thousands of games verified to run on Linux and what most probably will be number one on many game of the years lists running on Linux at least as good as (supposedly better than) on Windows is like medium important for the topic at hand, "gaming on Linux"?

Strange conclusion you made based on what I said. I fail to see where I said it as not important.

You didn't say it outright. But that was strongly implied in your criticism that there were too many Deck articles. Or rather "games for Deck" articles. Honestly, I don't even know what you meant when you suggested you wanted more Deck articles, but less games articles? It's a console for playing games, and doesn't have perfect compatibility - of course the bulk of the articles is about games. This is a gaming site.

Anyway, I'm enjoying the ride, at least. And judging by the views counts both on here and on Youtube, it seems that there's a decent number of people enjoying it too!

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