Quoting: MekaDragon

Quoting: x_wing

Quoting: MekaDragonI wouldn't call the performance issues like "here and there" when it can barely achieve 50fps everything in the lowest setting on my GTX970 and i5 [email protected]...

Use the vsync force...

How can V-Sync help me when I don't even reach 60fps...?

It stabilize your fps. I also get around 50 fps, but with vsync they get fixed to that number (literally).

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: x_wingAs I already quoted, it reads "you may be required". It's a conditional requirement for the usage of their Content and Services. In other words, if you can run it without the client running, then you're fine.

It's not clear what "may be" refers to. But other points are explicit:

To make use of the Content and Services, you must have a Steam Account and you may be required to be running the Steam client and maintaining a connection to the Internet. <...>
Except as otherwise permitted under this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use), or under applicable law notwithstanding these restrictions, you may not, in whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, publish, distribute, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, create derivative works based on, or remove any proprietary notices or labels from the Content and Services or any software accessed via Steam without the prior consent, in writing, of Valve.

I.e. they stress that only what's the agreement allows is permitted, so you can't extrapolate anything implicitly, like I said above. I don't see from the agreement that you can make backups without the client. And let alone use them, if your account is gone (which can happen if Steam shuts down or simply cancels your account).

Does the agreement explicitly says that they only allows the execution of games using their client? I know it sounds ambiguous (for example, "you may" is also use for the minimum age), but in other languages is very explicit. I mean, age limit is a must and Steam client use is stated as optional in Spanish (for instance). Regarding the backup, they give a writing consent to copy and backup your SteamApps in the link I shared (that's an official write permission from them to every user that reads that guide).

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: x_wingIt also should be explicit that you're not allowed to do something.

Usually the opposite. Copyright allows only what's explicitly specified. Negative parts of the agreement are aimed at reducing what you can normally do by law.

Still, they explicitly says that you may be able to use Content and Services without their Client or an Internet connection.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: x_wingOk, lets says it is ambiguous. Still, where is written that you can't do a backup copy of your SteamApps?

I posted that above about using the client. I read it as unless they let you, you have to use the client. So you'd need to find an explicit permission.

As I already quoted, it reads "you may be required". It's a conditional requirement for the usage of their Content and Services. In other words, if you can run it without the client running, then you're fine.

If the purpose of that statement was to empathize that they should explicitly allow you to use it then I think that it should have read: "To make use of the Content and Services you must have a Steam Account and if Steam explicitly allows, you may not require running the Steam client and maintaining a connection to the Internet" (tried to keep it as much lawyer-lexic, my apologies if it is not well expressed)

Kinda pointless to keep this discussion. You definitely have a very narrow opinion regarding Steam.

Quoting: ShmerlCopyright stuff commonly works using explicit, not implicit scope. I.e. if it's not said - it's not covered.

It also should be explicit that you're not allowed to do something.

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Quoting: ShmerlNot sure if it means manual backup, since they say "Please see the Using the Steam Backup Feature topic", which implies they mean using their tool. I'd say, at best it's very ambiguous.

Ok, lets says it is ambiguous. Still, where is written that you can't do a backup copy of your SteamApps?

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Quoting: ShmerlI'm not sure what you mean by both options. Here is their backup documentation: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8794-YPHV-2033 [External Link]

And they say quite explicitly:

1. Install Steam and log in to the correct Steam account (see Installing Steam for further instructions)
2. Launch Steam.
...

I meant what I quoted, doing a SteamApps backups is valid (they suggest this). In the article you link explains on how to backup only one of your games, while SteamApps will backup your whole library plus some Steam config files.

Nowhere in the Steam doc or user license a manual backup copy (as intended in the article I shared) is prohibited, I don't understand why you assume that.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: BOYSSSSSI can't seem to find it. Is this it? https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement [External Link]

It's the part about needing the client for installation step. @x_wing mentioned something about them explicitly allowing manual backups and re-installtion without the client. I've never seen that. Where is it documented?

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7418-YUBN-8129 [External Link]

Warning:
It is highly recommended that you create a backup of your SteamApps folder before attempting this process. If there is a problem in this process and you do not have a backup of your games or the SteamApps folder, it will be necessary to reinstall the games individually. Please see the Using the Steam Backup Feature topic.

They refer to both options, so both are valids backups.

By the way, the license agreement reads:

To make use of the Content and Services, you must have a Steam Account and you may be required to be running the Steam client and maintaining a connection to the Internet.

As it is read, it's not mandatory to have the client running/installed to use everything (to be fair, it's a must for games that uses Steam DRM or similar)

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Quoting: ShmerlNot the way you think. They explicitly require you to use their client for backups and restoration. I.e. if your account is closed (or Steam itself is closed), you won't be able to restore your backups legally, since your client will be defunct.

As I said, there are two ways to make backups. One is by making the packages, the other is by just copying your library directory (is mentioned in their docs). The second won't block your access on any Steam games that is DRM-free.

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Quoting: PatolaThankfully this game did not go the Witcher 3 way. The collective reaction and the complaints about performance made me fear it would happen.

I'm afraid that complains won't stop. I leave the probable sequence:
_start:

• Bad performance


• Performance not equal to Windows performance


• Linux builds shipped later than Windows one's


• Switch to Unity


• jmp _start

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Quoting: ShmerlNope. GOG only has regular copyright restrictions specified. I.e. you aren't supposed to copy what you bought to others. That's perfectly expected. GOG however allows you personal backups, which is one of the main points of DRM-free. So not the same at all.

And Steam also allows backups (in fact, they mention two ways in their docs). More over, if your game is DRM-free you can move your backup and run it anywhere without the Steam client (which is the other DRM software you always mention on Steam). Not sure where you want to get at this point...

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Quoting: MekaDragonI wouldn't call the performance issues like "here and there" when it can barely achieve 50fps everything in the lowest setting on my GTX970 and i5 [email protected]...

Use the vsync force...

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