Quoting: KimyrielleLet's see where this goes, but I am not too worried. If the worst case happens and that company gets taken over by big-evil-business, I am very confident that Godot will get forked by a new dev team and live happily ever after. It happened after OpenOffice got taken over by big-evil-business, too. The good thing about open source is that it's fairly immune against hostile takeovers.

In the best case, this could be a positive game-changer for Godot. While not everything the team will be working on will get upstreamed to Godot, I am sure that a lot of it will.

To keep it interesting for the investors I would guess the console market... so keeping that out of godot and as a payable add on, or something like that.

I do agree that forking OpenOffice in the longrun worked out, although I am not sure how that works for game engine's, the big gaming dev's tend to write a lot of in-house stuff against an engine to help there needs, a fork of a game engine which is used by companieswith self written add ons or bought add ons is diffrent from a fork of an office suit which we end users use.

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Sorry but isn't this just normal ? The ifixit thing where you can get parts, that is cool and let's hope more companies go that route, either because new laws force them or they simply see the light :)

But you know, your still under warranty device breaks then its nothing more then normal that you can ship it back and it gets fixed. This has nothing to do with "This just continues to show how all-in Valve are on the future of the Steam Deck" but is normal consumer law/rules. And even out of warranty fixing for a price is not that unheard off.

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Drivers, drivers, drivers oh and drivers.

It does not matter how good the hardware is, if the drivers are not up to par then its pretty useless. They are very far behind the nvidia's and amd's of this world right now on all there 3 mentioned levels of gaming, so tbh I think waiting till the next round might be smarter.

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Quoting: BumadarWon't be at my desktop for a few weeks, but will do once I get home.

What works on nfs: installing any gog game which does not use the gog installer and running any installed game viw lutris, same goes for installing any steam game or playing it, so rights are okay.

What does not work: installing any game that uses the gog installer while the lutris game directory is set to the nfs

If I move the lutris game directory to local that same game installs just fine, copy everything over to the nfs, change lutris directory and game runs fine.

Just to clarify - "installing any gog game which does not use the gog installer", does this mean installing directly with a manual extraction, or simply not using lutris "gog install" script?

IE: Do you mean it works when not using the GOG installer that comes with the game, or not letting lutris download & install for you?

This sounds like it could be some kind of path settings issue or? Definitely gonna need that debug output to see what it's doing.

I've had it before where lutris has done the download for me, and somehow not managed to get it working (saying missing file) - but selecting my own downloaded gog install file worked fine. Is this what you're getting?

When selecting games to install all downloads work (either cache dir local or cache dir on nfs), then some use lutris script and scummv or other use lutris scripts and for example dosbox. Those work fine. It's when there is no other option but wine/gog installer (one with the green buttons), the installer starts and then exits with code 256, that is it, it won't install if the location is nfs.

I will send the output but 4 more weeks from home, sorry :)

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Quoting: BlackBloodRum

Quoting: Termy

Quoting: BlackBloodRumJust be sure to check which permissions you're granting, because you could end up granting full system access

yeah, thats something i always missed on flathub - no easy way to see beforehand what is requested. Flatseal is a nice tool to get an overview. And regarding Lutris: by default it is granted full home dir access - don't know why they would do something like that tbh...

If you install via command line, flatpak will show you the permissions every time. But be aware application updates can request additional permissions to what you have previously reviewed, again if using the flatpak command it will present those additional permissions to you before proceeding. I'm not sure how UI's handle this such as discover in KDE since I've always just used the command (I know I'm weird :tongue:).

As for lutris's home directory access request, I think that's intended to make things easier for an end user. I mean, if it was confined to only its own local files (full lockdown) then it would be difficult for an average user to load in extra games like emulated Atari games and such since most people will probably have those downloaded and saved into another directory somewhere else (such as ~/Games\ for\ Atari) and to keep the sandbox in that case the files would have to be copied or moved into lutris's sandbox directory.

Good luck explaining all that to a new Steam Deck user who just wants to play their game and has no prior knowledge of Linux. So in that case it's far easier to just allow home directory access and let the user go pick the file he wants as normal.

In addition probably also trying to maintain consistency with the non-flatpak version.

Quoting: BumadarNo, I used the version in the tumbleweed repo. It's not that the nfs share is not available, just the gog installer, so might be a wine issue seeing the nfs as network drive.

Odd issue, but unlikely to be because of the filesystem being NFS (Assuming it has read/write permissions?). When Linux mounts an NFS partition, that's all handled by the kernel and mounting tools. Beyond that any other application (such as wine) just sees it as a regular directory on the computer the same as any other.

Try to see if you can get more info by running the following command:

 
lutris --debug

Try to install your game again but watch the terminal window, it might spit some other errors out which might better paint a picture of the problem.

Won't be at my desktop for a few weeks, but will do once I get home.

What works on nfs: installing any gog game which does not use the gog installer and running any installed game viw lutris, same goes for installing any steam game or playing it, so rights are okay.

What does not work: installing any game that uses the gog installer while the lutris game directory is set to the nfs

If I move the lutris game directory to local that same game installs just fine, copy everything over to the nfs, change lutris directory and game runs fine.

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Quoting: dibz

Quoting: BumadarI am not sure its a lutris problem or wine in general, need to test more when I have time. But I wanted my lutris install directory on my nas, it's mounted via nfs and works just fine with steam, loads of room and more then fast enough for gog games, however using lutris I can not install any gog game using the gog installer, it's simply ends with code 256. Any other gog install method like native Linux or dosbox etc works just fine, just the games that need the gog installer. Moving the whole thing to a local drive, install and move to nfs works but a bit of a hassle. Anyways as I said not sure if it's lutris or wine in general.

Are you using the flatpak version of lutris? I don't really use flatpaks much, but I do know they sandbox with additional layers of security/protection. Preventing access to network filesystems is definitely something sandboxey things do. Hopefully someone that actually uses flatpak can comment.

No, I used the version in the tumbleweed repo. It's not that the nfs share is not available, just the gog installer, so might be a wine issue seeing the nfs as network drive.

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I am not sure its a lutris problem or wine in general, need to test more when I have time. But I wanted my lutris install directory on my nas, it's mounted via nfs and works just fine with steam, loads of room and more then fast enough for gog games, however using lutris I can not install any gog game using the gog installer, it's simply ends with code 256. Any other gog install method like native Linux or dosbox etc works just fine, just the games that need the gog installer. Moving the whole thing to a local drive, install and move to nfs works but a bit of a hassle. Anyways as I said not sure if it's lutris or wine in general.

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Quoting: EhvisWhat was actually good on PS3? Not that I'm likely to play it since I don't really have any nostalgia for this machine, but I'm curious because this seems to be a big hole in my game knowledge.

Demon Souls

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Someone is probably going to point out all the minor artifacts but to me that looked perfect :)

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Quoting: krelltunezWhich are the gems?

Dreamfall chapters, at least for me.

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