Looks and sounds really nice. Looking forward to your review of the finished game. :)

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Quoting: scaineMy Sapphire 5700XT is super quiet.

Thank you very much! May I please ask which Sapphire model that is? I've seen the Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5700 XT (as well as the Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5700 XT BE version), as well as the Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 5700 XT (also in ... BE and ... SE versions, it seems).

The BE versions seem to be smaller cards with smaller heat sinks and lower boost clocks, so I'd steer clear of those. Nitro+ is the flagship (and the SE is a "special edition" with some fancy RGB leds and higher overclocks), but I'd argue that the Pulse will give you better value for money.

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Quoting: LightkeyIf you look at the Phoronix results, you will notice that the Radeon 5700 XT is far slower than it is on Windows, relative to NVidia's cards.

Is it though? Haven't looked into these recently (haven't been on the market for new hardware) but Phoronix tests seemed to put the 5700 XT around the level of an RTX 2070 (non-Super), and seems like reliable testing sites like Tomshardware give it similar relative figures on Windows. This depends on the benchmark of course, as native Linux ports and games running on proton might have different quirks on AMD and Nvidia hardware than they do on Windows. I definitely can't see the "far slower" part.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: 14I like the MSI coolers though, because the fans turn off when the card is cool enough. My PC is very quiet when I'm not gaming or compiling.

It's not only MSI though. My Sapphire's fans aren't turning right now, and I've seen ASUS advertise the same feature. But yeah, it's nice.

Did you have to do anything special to get it to work, or was that the default behavior? I had to write a script and turn it into a systemd timer for my fans to turn off :(

No, I haven't done anything. This is default hardware behaviour.

The fans seem to start spinning at 60℃, and stop again when GPU temperature falls below 50℃. I can't actually hear the fans starting up from where I normally sit, but I checked using hw sensors. I'm using the default "performance" bios, not the "silent" option.

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Quoting: 14I like the MSI coolers though, because the fans turn off when the card is cool enough. My PC is very quiet when I'm not gaming or compiling.

It's not only MSI though. My Sapphire's fans aren't turning right now, and I've seen ASUS advertise the same feature. But yeah, it's nice.

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Quoting: TheRiddickGiving 5.9.0-9.1-liquorix-amd64 a go now, hopefully it isn't a bad performer.

I also gave it a go out of curiosity. Installed from their PPA, using the metapackages they recommended. The kernel crapped out right at the beginning of the boot sequence. I can't be arsed to dig further so I'll just stick to Mainline.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeYou almost need to be running a rolling release like Arch to be able to just pop the card in and have it go.

Sounds like a plan to me. Rolling release is where it's at when you're a PC gamer. Or, you can wait, I guess, and watch not only Windows gamers enjoy their AMD cards sooner but also other Linux gamers.

You're saying this like it's somehow a huge struggle, or a show of weakness maybe. :D

I pretty much never buy hardware before it's been on the market for a few months, or games on day one. For GPUs, good reasons to wait are lower prices, more third party models with perhaps better cooling options, more mature drivers etc. And games, well I'm not really into multiplayer, and it really doesn't matter to me if a single player game is brand new. I guess I'm patient. Not that it matters: A game that's a year old (or ten) is just as good as it was at launch. Or most likely better, with whatever patches, new content etc. that have been released since. And obviously it's cheaper as well.

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Quoting: fnordianslip

Quoting: tuubiYou never got your refund?

No. However, to be fair to Jolla (which they don't deserve, in my opinion) I do recall ticking the box that effectively meant that they should keep the money. I still had hopes that they could do good things with Linux. It wasn't so much the loss of the money, but the scandalous nature of their behaviour that annoyed me the most. Never again.

It's disappointing but maybe understandable that a small startup has trouble finding a foothold in this market ruled by a duopoly of giants. That said, I'm quite happy with Sailfish X on my current phone. Hopefully it'll still be an option the next time I need to buy one as well, or at least that there'll be a decent, supported Linux phone OS (with android app compatibility and a workable user interface) available for a reasonable price.

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Quoting: fnordianslipLooks nice, but since I got well and truly burnt by the Jolla Tablet scam, I won't be crowdfunding this.

You never got your refund?

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Quoting: slaapliedjeNvidia also supports their older cards for much longer than AMD/ATI has in general.

I think you'll find that the oldest AMD GPU drivers still included in upstream Mesa are for the R100-series from year 2000, whereas Nvidia current "legacy" driver series includes support for HW based on the Fermi architecture (2009) and later. But maybe you're comparing proprietary drivers only?

Nvidia's drivers used to be objectively better on Linux, but I don't think that's the case any more. My last Nvidia GPU was a GTX 960 and I was happy with it, but I've been even happier with the two AMD GPUs I've owned since.

These discussions tend to end up full of partisan hyperbole (often mostly based on hearsay), but in the end, both vendors are easy to live with these days for someone who just wants to play some games. No game requires the latest kernel or Wayland—so Nvidia's reluctance to play ball is almost irrelevant—but new kernels and Mesa packages are readily available on any mainstream distro for those who need them so us AMD/Mesa users are fine too.

That said, in my opinion and experience AMD currently has an edge on Linux even if you ignore the ethical and technical implications of Open Source vs proprietary. Personally I don't like to ignore these implications, so that's another reason I'm happier on AMD.

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