I know what I'm going to play on december 14th. :grin:

Thanks for the info about AMD FSR 2.1. I was searching the press releases about it and couldn't find anything. Awesome news!

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Quoting: itscalledrealityCongrats, but what were the qualifications?

What were the other candidates?

A Playdate?

The Steam Deck has some nice hardware but is in no way a bleeding edge device. Heck it has a semi-weak screen just to keep costs down.

EDIT:
Oh I see it was a public vote, lame.

And for those curious here’s what it was up against (it beat out a PS5 harddrive lol):

Best Gaming Hardware

Playdate
Steam Deck (WINNER)
Analogue Pocket
Backbone One: PlayStation Edition
Roccat Kone XP
WD_Black SN850 NVMe SSD for PS5

Did anybody said it needed to be bleeding edge to win? I think it's more about the new possibilities and experience that it offers which can be considered a breakthrough. The hardware as you are referring to is just one aspect and not the main one and since it's a public vote, most won't care about what's under the hood.

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Good grief! I will have to do a 3rd run! I feel so miserable! :grin:

Edit: I did my second run on Steam Deck with the SteamOS FSR because I found the in-game one being... Meh... I found some weird "upscaling pixelization". Looking forward to test FSR 2.1.

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Handheld. All the time, unless for the occasional updates/plugin installation that requires the desktop mode. I already have a much more powerful PC if I need to sit to a desk and it's the main reason why I bought the Steam Deck: "Being freed from the shackles of my desk!"

Where have I heard that? :wink:

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Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: LuxZgBtw, frame limiting is easy in Windows

On a per game basis and on the fly, like on SteamOS?

Quoting: LuxZg... Same with FSR.

You mean, it's possible to have AMD FSR on any title or on a per game basis, even when not supported by the said game, on Windows? At driver level? At a button's distance, at will? Haven't heard about that.

Frame limiter on a per game basis? Yes. You have global setting, and then can override it per application. Well, I can vouch for Nvidia. Let.me Google that for you about AMD. Well, sure, called FRTC, works same way, global plus per game.

On the fly? I didn't check. When I use it on PC, I just set it and forget it, I don't tweak it every 5 minutes. But when I started setting last time, I would just Alt-Tab to Control panel and change value, then back to game and see if new value is satisfactory.

That had been working for what, well, at least 5 years.

As for FSR, yes, FSR upscaler can be enabled in driver for all games, even unsupported, issue is that (same as Proton/SteamOS) that option will also upscale UI. Meaning that you'll get UI that's enlarged. I doubt Proton can magically override that, as it upscales image, not individual elements. While when FSR (or DLSS) is supported in-game, then developer makes tweaks to target different visuals in different ways, keeping UI looking normal sized. If you used Deck, the same exact thing is an issue with UI in games that haven't been tweaked for Deck resolution & DPI.

Again, can that be done on a per game base? Yes, as much as I know. On the fly, Alt-Tab I guess, again, not something you'd change all the time.

FYI, there have been tools to do that beyond drivers as well, for years, eg RTSS (RivaTuner). You can set a hotkey to enable/disable, eg if you want to run without limiter on power, and with limiter on battery.

If Valve appointed 3 people they could so wonders with Windows as well, but they picked Linux years ago, and that's fine. I'm not complaining. I'm just pointing that reason for Windows being unpopular option on Deck is down to Valve, not because this or that OS is better. If you simply ran Debian or Arch on Deck it would require quite some work from user to get it working, same with Windows, same with any OS except SteamOS.

IMHO, if they made a Steam as app package that pulled all those bits, and made it easily available on all distros, and allowed user to pick their distro, it would be larger plus for general Linux community. Luckily they upstream most of it so eventually it will get there. I do look forward to new SteamOS builds for general PCs, hopefully they get the bootloader sorted by then. I've become lazy over the years, too lazy to tinker and look for workarounds.

My questions were guenuine. Heard a little about Magpie. Personally I dislike tweaking apps in the driver menus and alt-tabing, back & forth, but to each our own. Per app driver profiles are not what I call easy to use, if that is what you are refering to. You need to be a power user to take advantage of that. What is really new is being able to tweak all these settings in realtime with an overlay while the game is still running and with such easiness. I use the per game settings a lot and try many combinations before deciding on which setup I prefer and it's not always (rarely) the in-game FSR that I prefer. Too much weird results, imo. And minimizing to desktop to tweak the driver on an 8" screen while I'm gaming in handheld... Yuk!

But yeah, as long as Valve won't support Windows, SteamOS will be the place to be. Did Valve say they will support Windows eventually or will they just offer occasional driver updates?

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Quoting: LuxZgBtw, frame limiting is easy in Windows

On a per game basis and on the fly, like on SteamOS?

Quoting: LuxZg... Same with FSR.

You mean, it's possible to have AMD FSR on any title or on a per game basis, even when not supported by the said game, on Windows? At driver level? At a button's distance, at will? Haven't heard about that.

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Quoting: wit_as_a_riddle

Quoting: Guest

the vast majority of gamers on Steam Deck are sticking to SteamOS which goes to show just how good it is as an experience overall

And how bad of an experience Windows is.

SteamOS is pretty good (not perfect at all tho), but honestly, it would have to be pretty damn bad for Windows to be the better option.
Windows is fine on desktops, but on touch devices and even more so on handheld devices such as the Deck (gamepad + touch) it just doesn't cut it.

Let me begin by making it clear I hate Windows. There, now that's out of the way I can mention how Valve recently added the ability to use game mode aka the new big picture mode to the desktop client. This means windows users are able to use the new SteamOS UI, even boot right into it if they want.

Yep, but at least, it's only a graphical overhaul of the initial BPM. It lacks all the SteamOS features that makes it even more awesome (fps caps, AMD FSR, fast resume, etc...). These features require the SteamOS "backbone" (read Gamescope/Proton) to run. These menu entries are already getting removed from the BPM desktop client. You get the look & feel, but not the meat.

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No doubt the Steam Deck is pushing forward Linux gaming and it's a great news, but...

I should note as well, that this GPU still doesn't even show up when filtering to just Windows

I would like to be reassured that this is not just an anomaly caused by a bad hardware identification on Windows. Until proof of the contrary, I'll keep my rose tinted glasses. :happy:

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Quoting: tfkI just use 12345, which is the same code as my luggage... 🧳

Was this a Spaceball reference? Lol!

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Great news! Is it working like on the steam deck for AMD FSR setup?

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