What I really like is the fact that Valve & Amazon will be pushing DXVK & Proton. It feels like these 2 pieces of tech are gaining recognition, making them hard to avoid, in the middle to long term.

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Quoting: randylThe question I have is why would they choose Google over AWS?

Probably because there is an already established channel of communication between Google and Valve (Project Borealis on Chromebooks). It would make it a natural match to deepen this already existing "agreement".

Edit: But it's just my 2 cents; it might not be that much impactful either (Borealis).

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Who knows? Amazon may decide to build it's own "Luna Deck"? :wink:

Edit: Or to support the Steam Deck with Luna?

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: elmapulthat make things... interesting.
google is struggling to sell stadia, so steam is quite important for chromebook gamers, google will have to work harder on making sure steam work flawless on chromebooks (aka, make sure their sandbox for linux native apps dont have any major flaw) if they want to enter the operating system market.

Now imagine if Stadia would have gotten the publishers to publish the native Linux version of the games running on Stadia how much easier it would be for Google to have some games on their Chromebooks right now :-)

So who feels like they're only going ahead with this because Stadia is failing?

Maybe, but the Borealis project was started a while ago... Even before Stadia's official release, if my memory doesn't fail me... It might be a factor explaining why they are giving up that quickly on Stadia, though.

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Quoting: Liam DaweWhile we sit and attempt to wait patiently

Emphasis mine. Yeah, exactly this. It feels like time as slowed since original announcement. :grin:

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Awesome!

Aside from the Steam Deck, it's probably the other big Linux initiative that could push Linux adoption, imo. The Borealis "container" was (last time I checked) an Ubuntu VM, so it still helps getting games running on Linux, even if you are not a fan of Google.

Thing is, Chromebooks have a much bigger audience than Linux desktop. So, let's wait and see what kind of Chromebooks will be available for that kind of use-case and if there is a lot of interrest for gaming in the Chromebook user pool (or if it will draw new gamers to the platform).

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: STiATThey break stuff on a regular base. I am using it as a daily driver too since 1998 (1 year break using Budgie though), and have been contributing to KDE for some years (I do not any longer).

I think it's actually the same year for me. I installed Debian in 1998, and I cannot remember ever having used anything but KDE for more than trying out something. Of course, I did get a share of bugs and crashes in 23 years...

Quoting: STiATAnd thats just a few of those I experienced in the past 6 Month only using stable releases.

... but if your list is from half a year, I'm really surprised. I get my usual problem after updating nvidia drivers, sometimes write permissions when mounting my phone are wrong, but I think that's about it. I had a bigger problem with the database thing (akonandi?) going wild over my data in I guess the last but one Debian update, but that's at least half a decade ago. Maybe using Debian stable and not the latest release anymore is helping me.

Thing is, they all have bugs, depending on use case... It's only a matter of determining what is a game breaker bug, for you and then choose your desktop accordingly. :grin:

Example: Screen flickering while using Steam Link, on Gnome, is a game breaker for me.

Edit: And my personnal experience seems to point in the direction of graphics drivers, more often than not. Some bugs seem to be exclusive to AMD and others to Nvidia. But I didn't do an extensive search on the matter.

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: MohandevirIn the meantime, a quick check showed me that Ubisoft got 14 pages of upvotes in 3 days... Don't know if that mean much, though, for such a big company...

just compare to other things in their forum to see if its a big deal or not

Sure, but my "balloon" got deflated when I realised it was a player request that triggered the answer. I don't know why, probably bad reading from my part, I tought it was a Ubisoft initiative to gauge interrest in its user base... Nope! Another "Please add Linux/Proton support" thing that we have already seen a thousand times... At least, they took the time to answer, instead of flatout ignoring it, like they usually do, but it puts more doubt in Ubisoft's motivations to go forward. Maybe, because of the Steam Deck, it will be different this time, but...

Oh well, time will tell... I think I'm exhausted... When are the Holidays, this year? :grin:

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In the meantime, a quick check showed me that Ubisoft got 14 pages of upvotes in 3 days... Don't know if that mean much, though, for such a big company...

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Quoting: GuestI'm just simply saying this right here isn't really news of any value to us.

On this point, I totally agree... It's a GOL news in absolute, but Ubisoft is not trageting us, I'm quite sure of that. If it wasn't for the Steam Deck, Ubisoft would have continued to ignore us.

Edit: "Trial balloon". That's the expression I was looking for... Doesn't cost much and doesn't get you engaged.

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