Quoting: dpanterDo not use Experimental as default or as a permanent choice. It cannot be overstated or repeated enough times. Come on people.

I think you left the part where you explain what's so bad about using the Experimental version as default :wink:.

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Quoting: PyrateThat's my preferred Proton version anyways .

You're a fan of the don't use this or it might kill you and everyone you know build?

Yes, and I never ran into an issue. Besides, it's the only Proton option that made the stupid EA launcher work for the games that require that to play.

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That's my preferred Proton version anyways :grin:.

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I guess that means I can play Battlefront 2 from Epic? That'd be sick. Really great work from the Heroic team.

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Quoting: RedWyvernThis as it's a layer-distro on top of the base Arch repos, though the tweaks made to the standard installation are significant if still reproducable on Arch.

Same with Nobara and Fedora really.

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Quoting: PyrateI'll continue to crap on them, keep em on their toes.

You think you're keeping them on their toes, they see Linux users as entitled and annoying. These companies aren't supporting Linux because of *you*, they are doing it because they have large customers who pay them for it. And they support Linux to the extent needed by those contracts.

I think you got me wrong, I don't use Nvidia, I'm not that dumb, so I'm not necessarily expecting anything from them. The furthest I ever went (which is exactly where my disliking comes from) is helping a friend get his laptop up and running after he just switched to Linux, it's such a terrible experince to get those damned drivers to work, I nearly gave up before we finally fixed it. That experience alone is why I would never say "Folks here like to crap over Nvidia" and play devil's advocate, I'll just settle with saying on Linux they suck.

Quoting: ShabbyXSorry to be blunt, but sales coming from Linux users is not significant enough to them, and we don't statistically matter. So maybe instead be nice and the developers who are doing the work would be more motivated to take extra care of you despite the business decisions.

Do I really have to spill that out? This is the first time I see someone assuming frustrations at Nvidia are made towards the developers instead of management and the higher-ups, but I hope I made it clear now.

Otherwise I don't disagree with the rest of your comments, I just shared my opinions as an end-user not involved in the ins of development, commenting on what I see from the outside, and that I don't agree with the "this is fine guys" view towards something as undersupported as Nvidia on Linux.

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Quoting: ShabbyXFolks here like to crap over Nvidia, but you have no idea how valuable their contributions to Vulkan are. Same with Google, people were celebrating Stadia's downfall while in truth it was a _massive_ setback for Vulkan and its ecosystem.

It's disappointing.

I get what you mean but I don't agree at all. A few good deeds shouldn't stop people crapping over adversarial companies. Whatever they contributed is cool and all, but until they make (for example) the Novideo experience on Linux not unfathomly horrendous, I'll continue to crap on them, keep em on their toes.

Stadia failing is a net positive, who knows what will happen to gaming if cloud streaming got accepted this early (it's probably inevitable, but the later it happens the better).

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Quoting: Nitsugahttps://nosystemd.org/

Whoa what a rabbit hole. I assume there's a half good reason to bear such hatred towards some OS component but I don't really need or want to know about it, just sounds pretty hardcore.

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I just installed Kinoite on my laptop (secondary system) myself. So far so good. All the Atomic stuff seems so fancy and the computer magic behind btrfs goes over my head, but I am impressed.

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Quoting: ToddL

Quoting: Pyrate

Quoting: sprocket

Quoting: PyrateGuess they're too busy powering genocidal rogue states.

You definitely aren't wrong about this.

At his point on the internet, I actually can't tell if it's sarcasm or you're being genuine. You being an employee there I guess you could have more insight, so I'd like to know if you know more about this.

Even if he did, he wouldn't share that information on an open forum like this anyways.

Not exactly the most well-kept secret out there, but yeah I wouldn't risk it myself, especially with who we're dealing with here; you're right.

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