I wanted to try it on Steam Deck to see how the performance is on the Native version. Unfortunately I can't even get it to work. The game consistently crashes mangohud to the point that SteamOS wasn't working any more, and I can't even get into the game because it doesn't register me pressing A.

Why do developers even bother with Native Linux when Proton exists and is a lot more stable ? This was a total waste of time.

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Yiiiiiiiiiikes

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Seems to work well so far. 30ish fps in the forest starter area with Quality upscaling. For some reason the game defaults to Performance taau with FSR Framegen which is strange. Nice to see a game that is well optimized and working on release day:wub:

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And once again we have the community to thank for this, showing what is possible when you're not blinded by corpo mindsets. AMD could've unlocked FSR4 on their previous gens to reward customer loyalty, and increase their value, but they decided that their new GPUs need a selling point. Ironically this makes them look worse now from a consumer standpoint and will probably hurt their sales rather than increase them

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This is good news. 99% of people I know didn't even bother with AMDVLK since Mesa is superior in most cases and it ships with most distros. But there's some issues I like to see resolved in Mesa, like bad RT performance and some overall performance jankiness in games, like traversal stutter in Indiana Jones GC.

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If Proton is already so much better, why does Steam not reflect that in its auto-selection of compatibility tools? The average person doesn't care about Native Linux vs Proton or about age of games, they just want to play games. And if Linux experience is worse than Windows because of a broken Native port, they'll be quick to blame Linux for this fault

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I honestly can't comprehend why people keep bothering with 'Native Linux' to me it's just become synonymous to 'most likely broken'. Proton is a much more stable platform, here's some of my own experience:

- Dying Light Native version: unplayable, sent me into a neverending crash loop
- Rise of the Tomb Raider: controller did not work, unplayable on Steam Deck despite rated 'Playable'
- Portal 1: instantly crashes on AMD hardware unless you pretend you're on a Steam Deck or enable DXVK.
- Stardew Valley: display issues.
- Shadow of the Tomb Raider: either did not launch at all, or couldn't get past launcher, or registered inputs that I didn't make.
- ARK Survival Evolved: missing textures

I don't own the new Silksong game but people also reported controller issues with Native that were solved by going to Proton.

None of these problems ever existed in the Proton(Windows) version of these games. Can someone tell me why I should bother with an inferior, more buggy version of games? Forcing the broken native ports on people (like Steam does for every Linux Native game) is actively making the Linux experience worse. I wished there was a global toggle in Steam to force every game to Proton.

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And still no beta version for desktops ¬¬

SteamOS is not meant for desktops (and most likely never will be), it's a very specialized operating system that only officially supports 2 handhelds. It's missing a ton of stuff you'd expect a regular desktop OS to have (like Nvidia drivers, printing support etc...). If you're looking for one, this is not it, you'd be better off with something like Bazzite that was inspired by SteamOS, but unlike the latter it works on nearly everything:tm: including virtually all x86 handhelds

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Z2 Extreme (and Z2 even more so) is a bad joke, 10-20% better performance than Z1 Extreme in games. It's not even RDNA4 so it can't use FSR4 upscaling. Lenovo you learn nothing from Valve. Don't just make a whole new device just for the sake of making a new one. There needs to be ACTUALLY A MEANINGFUL PERFORMANCE BENEFIT for people to even bother with a new handheld especially when it's so extremely expensive. Sorry Lenovo but ~+5fps in games for a new chip, that's absolutely not worth it at all. The Z2E is still made on the same 4nm mode and uses the same TDP than Z1E which explains the meager uplift. Basically the only benefit that it has over Z1E is 4 more graphics compute units.

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Bazzite changed names twice over the past month or so, first "Bazzite 42 (FROM Fedora Kionite/Silverblue" then "Bazzite (FROM Fedora Atomic" and now it's just "Bazzite". Which is the reason why their usage share is tanking right now, but it should stabilize over the next months or so

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