That's nifty.

Here's mine.

https://s.team/y22/gmbrckd?l=english [External Link]

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: pete910@liam

Not to be picky but

Stock was, as expected, very limited.

Gibbo on OCUK (Where you got yours from) stated he had a 1000 + reference cards + the AIB's so good deal more than the 4080 had tbf.

What he didn't expect is to sell the lot in 20 minutes :shock: He reckoned around a few 100 at most.

I certainly didn't think they'd be that popular given their performance.

If I'm putting my payment details into something that even right then says it's in stock, I expect it to be in stock. They've now announced today they oversold it.

I'm not disputing that I was pointing out that they did have good stock but demand far exceeded what they expected.

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: pete910@liam

Not to be picky but

Stock was, as expected, very limited.

Gibbo on OCUK (Where you got yours from) stated he had a 1000 + reference cards + the AIB's so good deal more than the 4080 had tbf.

What he didn't expect is to sell the lot in 20 minutes :shock: He reckoned around a few 100 at most.

I certainly didn't think they'd be that popular given their performance.

If I'm putting my payment details into something that even right then says it's in stock, I expect it to be in stock. They've now announced today they oversold it.

You would think that if something wasn't in stock they'd, like, say it wasn't in stock.

As to oversold, well, seems like practically everything is oversold these days. Hype galore.

Again this was the issue due to the website not updating quick enough apparently. How true that is I don't know.

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Quoting: TheRiddickI WAS going to get a reference card but decided against it. They have pretty big limits and some coil whine issues.

Any GFX card from any supplier can suffer from coil wine . It's the luck of the draw unfortunately

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@liam

Not to be picky but

Stock was, as expected, very limited.

Gibbo on OCUK (Where you got yours from) stated he had a 1000 + reference cards + the AIB's so good deal more than the 4080 had tbf.

What he didn't expect is to sell the lot in 20 minutes :shock: He reckoned around a few 100 at most.

I certainly didn't think they'd be that popular given their performance.

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Seriously, **** windows only.

**** Nvidia .

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

Depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

Since developers already get Steam Deck support for free with Proton, what incentive do they have to release native Linux versions?

Nail, Meet hammer!

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

Depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

Since developers already get Steam Deck support for free with Proton, what incentive do they have to release native Linux versions?

And I mean, some developers are already specifically releasing native Linux builds for the Steam Deck. I've seen a few articles right here on GoL about games doing exactly that. So whatever their incentives might be, there clearly are some. Not big developers at this point, but if the current number of Steam Decks is enough for some smaller developers to go native, many more Steam Decks would presumably be enough for larger developers to try it.

So as I said, depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

There's the crux, They have to do nothing as proton does it for them. If a patch does break it ain't there problem so no negative feedback, win, win.

But the most important part is a native build will cost time and money, Proton costs them nothing! Unfortunately it's a numbers game.

So how do you explain the fact that some developers are, in fact, creating Linux native builds, some of them specifically referring to the Steam Deck when they do so?

You can say all you like that there's no reason for anyone to ever do X, but if some people are actually doing X, presumably you're, you know, wrong.

(Oh, and really--"nail, meet hammer"? Pretentious much? You don't win discussions by declaring yourself the winner, not after grade school anyway)

Wow, come down of your high horse.

Please point to where all these native builds are, Do we even have a native Boarderlands 3 yet, Hell even Serious sam 4 ?

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Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

Depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

Since developers already get Steam Deck support for free with Proton, what incentive do they have to release native Linux versions?

Nail, Meet hammer!

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

Depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

Since developers already get Steam Deck support for free with Proton, what incentive do they have to release native Linux versions?

More control, potentially better performance, good PR.

And I mean, some developers are already specifically releasing native Linux builds for the Steam Deck. I've seen a few articles right here on GoL about games doing exactly that. So whatever their incentives might be, there clearly are some. Not big developers at this point, but if the current number of Steam Decks is enough for some smaller developers to go native, many more Steam Decks would presumably be enough for larger developers to try it.

So as I said, depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

There's the crux, They have to do nothing as proton does it for them. If a patch does break it ain't there problem so no negative feedback, win, win.

But the most important part is a native build will cost time and money, Proton costs them nothing! Unfortunately it's a numbers game.

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Quoting: ShmerlAV1 encoder sounds good if it's using va-api.

I've tried vaapi a few times its always been crap for me, It is alot better than it used to be I admit.

I'll stick with the AMF encoder for now.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: ShmerlThey didn't reach Nintendo market size yet, which demonstrates that growth potential is still untapped.

Whom? Valve or Sony ?

Valve. So they clearly have a lot of room to grow for the existing level of demand for gaming handhelds.

True and really hope it does, but will it? Steam deck 2 my just persuade en mass, can valve make that many for that level of demand? Over time they could I guess. Time will tell.

I will rejoice when I see the likes of COD,Battlefield ect on the trailers say " PS,Xbox,Steam,Steam deck" Or better still a Tux logo next to the windows and console logos :grin:

Edit:

@Liam Video states it's private to me

Edit 2:

Am a tit , thats for the stream I guess :whistle:

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Quoting: ShmerlThey didn't reach Nintendo market size yet, which demonstrates that growth potential is still untapped.

Whom? Valve or Sony ?

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