Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

Depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

Since developers already get Steam Deck support for free with Proton, what incentive do they have to release native Linux versions?

Nail, Meet hammer!

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

Depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

Since developers already get Steam Deck support for free with Proton, what incentive do they have to release native Linux versions?

And I mean, some developers are already specifically releasing native Linux builds for the Steam Deck. I've seen a few articles right here on GoL about games doing exactly that. So whatever their incentives might be, there clearly are some. Not big developers at this point, but if the current number of Steam Decks is enough for some smaller developers to go native, many more Steam Decks would presumably be enough for larger developers to try it.

So as I said, depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

There's the crux, They have to do nothing as proton does it for them. If a patch does break it ain't there problem so no negative feedback, win, win.

But the most important part is a native build will cost time and money, Proton costs them nothing! Unfortunately it's a numbers game.

So how do you explain the fact that some developers are, in fact, creating Linux native builds, some of them specifically referring to the Steam Deck when they do so?

You can say all you like that there's no reason for anyone to ever do X, but if some people are actually doing X, presumably you're, you know, wrong.

(Oh, and really--"nail, meet hammer"? Pretentious much? You don't win discussions by declaring yourself the winner, not after grade school anyway)

Wow, come down of your high horse.

Please point to where all these native builds are, Do we even have a native Boarderlands 3 yet, Hell even Serious sam 4 ?

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Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

Depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

Since developers already get Steam Deck support for free with Proton, what incentive do they have to release native Linux versions?

Nail, Meet hammer!

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

Depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

Since developers already get Steam Deck support for free with Proton, what incentive do they have to release native Linux versions?

More control, potentially better performance, good PR.

And I mean, some developers are already specifically releasing native Linux builds for the Steam Deck. I've seen a few articles right here on GoL about games doing exactly that. So whatever their incentives might be, there clearly are some. Not big developers at this point, but if the current number of Steam Decks is enough for some smaller developers to go native, many more Steam Decks would presumably be enough for larger developers to try it.

So as I said, depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

There's the crux, They have to do nothing as proton does it for them. If a patch does break it ain't there problem so no negative feedback, win, win.

But the most important part is a native build will cost time and money, Proton costs them nothing! Unfortunately it's a numbers game.

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Quoting: ShmerlAV1 encoder sounds good if it's using va-api.

I've tried vaapi a few times its always been crap for me, It is alot better than it used to be I admit.

I'll stick with the AMF encoder for now.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: ShmerlThey didn't reach Nintendo market size yet, which demonstrates that growth potential is still untapped.

Whom? Valve or Sony ?

Valve. So they clearly have a lot of room to grow for the existing level of demand for gaming handhelds.

True and really hope it does, but will it? Steam deck 2 my just persuade en mass, can valve make that many for that level of demand? Over time they could I guess. Time will tell.

I will rejoice when I see the likes of COD,Battlefield ect on the trailers say " PS,Xbox,Steam,Steam deck" Or better still a Tux logo next to the windows and console logos :grin:

Edit:

@Liam Video states it's private to me

Edit 2:

Am a tit , thats for the stream I guess :whistle:

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Quoting: ShmerlThey didn't reach Nintendo market size yet, which demonstrates that growth potential is still untapped.

Whom? Valve or Sony ?

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How to fix the EA app on Steam Deck and Linux desktop

Don't use it !

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

Depends how many more Steam Decks get sold.

Still don't see it personally, Cant see Valve selling 20 odd million to be honest, would be epic if they did. That would be the sort of numbers it would require I think .

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Quoting: CorbenNow we "just" need the slow transition of devs actually doing native Linux build with it

Yea, Not going to happen. We will still be reliant on Proton. The days of the big publishers doing native builds just ain't coming.

When the likes of EA,Activision,Bungie,Ubisoft ect do native builds by default thats when you can say the year of the Linux desktop.....

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Runs sweet for me , I suck at it though :cry:

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Quoting: raptor85A full household at 160 watts? Unless you live like the middle ages I'm not sure how that's possible, the average household in the US uses 1200 watts when not at peak, 150 watts you could literally run your entire house off a single small solar panel and a car battery...hell you could run off just the car battery for 10 hours a day and just swap it out daily. (not even a full size panel, like a 1/4 size panel). Furnaces aren't "another 150 watts" the blower alone is around 800 watts, (can peak over 2000 during initial startup) assuming yours is gas. Do you not have any appliances? A refrigerator uses far more than that alone, a central fan uses almost 800, etc...the only way you average 160 is if you're offsetting your usage with home solar or you do nothing but sit around reading books by candlelight all day.

No, I'm thinking you dropped a 0 and you mean 1600, which is closer to average.

To be frank if my fridge/freezer used 200w I'd throw it in skip, if yours is I suggest you do the same! Hell I have a 48inch oled that only uses 83w in use and 0.5w on standby.

Most houses during the day will not consume that much as most are out the majority of the day at work ect, lights are off so bar the fridge ect very little would be on by default.
Lets be fair here, the vast majority of households now are using LED lighting so not as if houses will have 10 rooms lit constantly with 60w bulbs in each burning all evening/night.

Ok you could say, "but the kettle/toster" True, but there on for 5 mins at most, Not several hours like a computer you are using playing a game.

Don't get me wrong people have the washers on ect that uses far more than 160w but that's not all day everyday for the most part.

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