Quoting: Geppeto35New paper on the VCS Atari (with facts ;) ) ... why we should fear this project[/url]

Hmm, the part on Fergal is particularly worrying. This kind of problem could really kill Atari...

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Quoting: Geppeto35You seem to be keen to defend this project, which is probably laudable.
In the meantime, this VCS Atari does not exist and the list of things you write are only ads for the moment, not real. We are only discussing communication,

I'm not even defending this project, but as i said above, the amount of hatred against this project is disproportionate. Btw, I'm not a backer, and i won't buy it when/if it is delivered (already have a small form factor Pc, with a Ryzen inside).

Quoting: Geppeto35In the meantime, this VCS Atari does not exist and the list of things you write are only ads for the moment

I'm not working with Atari and i don't know whether their prototype is functionnal or not. But i guess that their 7th update is not totally fake.

Quoting: Geppeto35We are only discussing communication, which is "our" point.

On this point, we can agree that it is a disaster :)

Quoting: Geppeto35my only fear is that this kind of project will add one
argument more to Linux detractors against our OS as suitable for gaming, which should affect us all at GOL

Cannot really understand this point. What's the logic behind ? Linux is just an operating system, it cannot be responsible for all failed projects built around it.

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Quoting: TheSyldatI dunno what article you're referring to but you're obviously not talking about the one originally provided ...

You will find these quotes in 3 different articles (+comments) : first [External Link], second [External Link], and third [External Link] (the article mentionned above).

1) Si vous finissez par ne recevoir qu’une TVBox bas de gamme sous SoC ARM et pilotée par un android 4.0 avec 30 jeux mal implantés, Atari aura rempli sa mission. Et il ne vous restera que vos yeux pour pleurer.
La petite console [ouya] promettait grosso modo la même chose que la VCS

2) On peut donc s’attendre à une belle fluidité de jeu sur la VCS. Simplement on jouera à Asteroid. [...] Mais qui va regarder une partie de Missile Command ?

3) Encore une fois, [la disponibilite de jeux Linux] est totalement hypothétique. [...] Quel contenu ? On ne sait pas non plus. On va vous demander de faire confiance.

4) A moins que cela ne soit qu’une excuse à posteriori pour justifier les choix faits non pas par la marque mais par son partenaire Flextronics qui va concevoir la machine. La seule personne qui aurait pu avoir un réel impact sur le matériel, c’est Feargal Mac Conuladh.
Quant à la puce embarquée, je ne vois pas pourquoi le nouveau responsable hardware de la VCS confirmerait une puce Bristol Ridge si il compte installer autre chose. Le financement participatif est terminé, il n’y a plus de raison de faire de cadeaux.

So please, read these articles...

Rough translation in english :

1) If you end up receiving only a low-end TVBox under SoC ARM and driven by an android 4.0 with 30 poorly implemented games, Atari will have fulfilled its mission. And all you'll have left is your eyes to cry.
The small console [ouya] promised roughly the same thing as the VCS

2) We can therefore expect a good fluidity of game on the VCS. We'll just play Asteroid. You can stream on Twitch, but who's going to watch a game of Missile Command?

3) Again,[the availability of Linux games] is totally hypothetical. [...] What content? We don't know either. We're going to ask you to trust us.

4) [about the Bristol ridge choice] Unless it is only an excuse in retrospect to justify the choices made not by the brand, but by its partner Flextronics who will design the machine. The only person who could have had a real impact on the equipment was Feargal Mac Conuladh. As for the embedded chip, I don't see why the new VCS hardware manager would confirm a Bristol Ridge chip if he plans to install anything else. Participatory funding is over, there is no longer any reason to give gifts.

And yet, i cannot quote everything...

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Quoting: TheSyldatto prove him wrong with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY ...

It's funny to write "Absolute certainty" here : Pierre should first prove he is "absolutely right". It's a beautiful - how do you say that in english ? - Reverse Onus ?

Anyway, obviously, he was wrong about many claims :

-The VCS is not just an android box
-It is not just a retro box (to "play asteroid and old atari titles")
-It can run Linux games (See the 7th update [External Link]) so he was also wrong about the number of available games (a big problem according to him).
-It will have a Ryzen APU.

But, of course, if your point is just "It's a scam, Atari is lying", you'll always be right. We can easily play this game : "maybe Atari will deliver a Raspberry pi with retroarch", and "maybe you will get a serving of cheese with baguette" (after all it's french now, and cheese is expensive, so you will get your money back...).

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Quoting: Geppeto35it shall be funny and I will disavow when you will get this Atari on your hand, working as claimed...for the moment, the implied guys are pros for crowdfunding resulting in nothing (demonstrated with facts on their previous projects in those series of paper). Moreover, concerning the author, he is not "just a guy like you and me" but develops with real factories (...not communication agencies, see the difference?) small computers and related hardware solution for years (being before those years himself a specialized journalist on mini-computers and laptops in a high audience specialized journal). Yep, for sure "a guy like you" as you say (not me, you don't know my job dude). Thanks for your reasoned and factual return :whistle:
But I understand that it can be disturbing I wanted to believe in this project also :(

This guy is not involved in the Atari project. So he has no more information than you and me.

Quoting: Geppeto35it shall be funny and I will disavow when you will get this Atari on your hand, working as claimed...

So what's the point of your link ? Obviously, this guy was wrong. Or does it mean that Atari is patently lying ?

If you assume that Atari is lying, and the VCS is a scam, you can absolutely say what you want. So again, what's the point ?

Quoting: Geppeto35Yep, for sure "a guy like you" as you say

Ho please, not with me. Just read his articles. Without more informations than anyone alse, this guy wrote one year ago that "The Atari VCS is just a bad Tvbox made in fake plastic, and you will just play asteroid with it".

Is that "journalism" ?

In addition to the Ryzen, he also denies the fact that the VCS will be able to run Linux games.
At least, he should now correct these obvisously wrong informations.

Skepticism is a good thing, but not bashing.

>But I understand that it can be disturbing I wanted to believe in this project also

Don't get me wrong, i'm not even a backer. But all this hate about this project is really disproportionate.

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Quoting: Geppeto35A paper by a specialist on this project (google translate it ;) ) [External Link]

The author of this blog is not a "specialist", but just a guy like you and me. There is litterally no information in this (old) article, just his opinion and assumptions.

He explains that Atari has been lying since the beginning of this project, and why the Atari VCS will never get a Ryzen. So funny when you read this news.

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Quoting: KimyrielleThese tests show that SteamPlay is on par with native ports in performance even now, and it didn't even leave beta yet.

Actually,to be honest, these tests only show that Proton is on par with old or bad ports...

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It looks like Pixel Junk Shooter [External Link].

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyBut what about all the hardcore children complaining that the frame rate is slower on Linux?!

And the "meeh fortnite" children...

I gave a computer to my 12 years old nephew (not a beast with a 660gtx, but it runs great on mint) who only had a smartphone. Not a single "thank you dear cool uncle !" : just a "meeeh Fortnite"...

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Quoting: emphy.

Could you please stop being so negative on EVERY VCS article ?
We understand your point of view, but all this negativity and this sarcasm are a bit boring...

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