I'm using Win7 atm but will likely move to win10 once I setup my ryzen rig later in the year because MS are pulling a non-support policy for older OS with Ryzen (somehow). I thought AMD and vendors would maintain driver support?

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Windows 10 Malware/Spyware edition, that is what MS wants everyone on, they will likely just keep paying big money into developers to get them to support DX12 because I don't see a SANE developer choose DX12 over Vulkan unless there are considerable money issues in doing so.

Also Star Citizen is doing ok, its almost 5yrs in development now and has had several builds out (v0.262 atm I think) and once V3 is released next month? people will get a chance to test out much more of what it has to offer. So to all those people saying its a complete flop, why not actually TRY the alphas out (inc v3 next month) before forming an opinion?

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Quoting: AimelaJust look at G-Sync,

To be fare the new Freesync2 is closed loop just like g-sync also. I don't know if AMD will be able to sell freesync2 with the way they intend to do it (exclusive product selection among other things).

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Then you and others who look at it like that are shortsighted I'm sorry to say.

Its about platforms, CD VHS MP3 are all different media platforms that can run on different devices. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS PC, PC is NOT multiple platforms, it is ONE! GET IT? I hope so.

But like I said I wouldn't have a issue paying a DLC cost for certain games, but I can see peoples arguments where if EVERY developer did the whole PAY DOUBLE for Linux thing then it will basically kill the chances for the OS in the future. You can expect lots of complaints and refunds to be had. BIG mess!

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If they release a SkyrimSE/Fallout4/GTA5/Witcher3 on Linux and ask for a reasonable price then I would be OK with paying again if that's what it takes. But again, at a reasonable price point!!!!

But in all honestly I have very limited funds and I'm sure many others do so buying 2 PC copies for every game isn't practical and will likely result in my just not buying many games and sticking to the ones I already have available. But those 4 above I would make an exception if need be.

Buying Linux support as a DLC option is fine imo.

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I think I bought a copy off their website not long back. Hope I don't regret it.

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Basically it seems any game that works with Vulkan will work mostly flawlessly under Wine/Vulkan with a 1:1 performance ratio if Doom4 results are to be considered the norm. The only issue would be copy protection perhaps? I think it would be great if developers just bundle up a wine wrapper with their vulkan releases and put it on steamos/linux in such case. (given the parity in performance).

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Most videocards come with a driver disc or warning on the box to get latest drivers from a website. Now for NVIDIA that isn't so bad as they have Linux drivers out there for you to easily see and they ARE the latest, provided the user doesn't get blackscreen upon install (very common), and is able to figure out howto install them from bash (annoying for new users).

AMD's website will cause you to find the OLD fglrx drivers for Linux which will give you a rather frustrating experience to say the least.

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They don't need to, the distro comes with them.

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You assume they should know about PPA usage at the start, when its not mentioned anywhere upon installing most Ubuntu distro's. PPA could mean anything.

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