Quoting: soulsourceI consider catering to users who intentionally ignore critical warnings a step in the wrong direction.

I'm not trying to be elitist, but seriously, if there's a very clearly worded meessage telling the user that they are going to break their system, it's the user's fault if they type in "do as I say"...

Linus is the only one who can know his intentions. You and I can only guess. An honest mistake can't be ruled out, especially by someone knowledgeable enough in one domain (Windows) to critically overestimate his ability in another.

I'm reminded of Murphy's Law: "If there is a right way and a wrong way to do something, someone will inevitably do it the wrong way." Hence why eletrical sockets the world over have mechanisms to ensure that you can only plug a device in the correct way, rather than backwards which might fry your device or start a fire*. It sounds like you can still "plug things in backwards" with APT if you really want to, it's just removed the label on the plug telling you that's possible, which should stop a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't think to do it.

*And yes I know North American sockets can technically allow plugs to be flipped either way (because for some devices it doesn't matter), but that's both an exception to the rest of the world, and if the device really should be plugged in only one way there are two different physical mechanisms to enforce that. (Making one prong slightly larger, and using the third grounding prong.)

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Are you fighting Mr. Blobby in that screenshot? Only recognize that from watching British YouTubers... :whistle:

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Sounds like a fun idea, feel like the interface could stand a bit more polishing...

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All this discussion of desktop environments has me thinking: you know how we have the little icons for our distro of use/choice next to our names? What about adding a second icon for DE? Might be interesting to see the spread of what people use, especially since users of the same distro might be using very different DEs. Just a suggestion, no idea how much work it'd be to implement. :smile:

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Superliminal is right up there among "games I never would've guessed would get a battle royale mode", but I enjoyed the game itself enough that I'm...curious, I guess? Even as someone with no real interest in battle royale-type games. Actually, what I've love to see (maybe from modders with the level editor) would a Portal 2-esque co-op mode—imagine if, say, resizing your partner(s?) was the solution to puzzles.

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Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoAnd the technical purpose of the banana is....????

Reminding you to get your daily potassium intake. :wink:

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Quoting: MohandevirI don't know what you think about that, but something is telling me that the screen on this setup doesn't run in 4k. Might be wrong... :grin:

Edit1:
Just found the exact same screen:
https://eyoyomall.com/products/eyoyo-small-touchscreen-monitor-10-inch [External Link]

Nope! Doesn't run in 4K. Nice touch screen though, good price.

Edit2:
Mmmm... Connecting that kind of screen to my GTX 1660 Super rig, to be used as a in-home streaming server, for my futur Steam Deck, in native 1280x800... Wow! It would make it a powerhouse!

I was just going to ask what that tiny adorable monitor was. :wub:

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Quoting: ShabbyX

Quoting: Hori

Quoting: ShabbyXValve is pretty clearly delaying this so they can finish Half-Life 3 as a Deck-only game.

I wouldn't mind that (in fact, I think it would be good for the Deck and for Linux in general), but only as long as it's just a timed exclusive which will eventually find its way to other platforms and also other stores (not just Steam).

While I obviously said that as a joke, it's not too far fetched for them to release a game that's highly specific to Deck's controls to the point that it wouldn't be really playable on desktop. They did that for VR after all, didn't they?

I was trying to think how that would work considering it's much more similar to existing controls than VR controls are, but I guess the Deck does have

• Gyroscope,


• Touch screen,


• More buttons on the back than most controllers,

so I suppose if someone really wanted to they could make a game that only really works on a Deck.

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Quoting: gradyvuckovicIt's easy to be disappointed by the first episode of this series and view it as a disaster.

I found it to be absolutely hilarious. I don't care about petty squabbles. No distro is perfect, linux is not perfect, but that is not why any of us use it. I also find it funny how the linux community as a whole seems to behave like a corporate PR department, thinking of this in terms of a PR disaster.
I for one am excited for the rest of this series. I had a blast watching the first one.

Yeah, from my point of view it was a cautious success, and left a nice supportive comment on the video (which I'm sure will be lost among the 7,000 others) to let them know there are those of us cheering them on in their attempt. It's easy to overlook with Linus's situation, but Luke gets Linux Mint installed, gets Steam installed, and runs a game with no issues. In the first episode. His experience was basically boring (seeing as how no one is really talking about it), which is really encouraging! Meanwhile Linus manages to bork his first choice within fifteen minutes, yes, but instead of giving up for the day (an action I wouldn't blame anyone for doing at that point) he gives it a second go and gets a second distro installed. Sure it's got a sound bug, but that's probably something he'll be able to fix after a good night's sleep and a few hours of Googling, and will probably be straightened out in the second episode.

The overall tone was quite levelheaded and even, with no one smugly proclaiming Windows' superiority or Linux's inferiority, and no one angrily swore off Linux for life. I suspect (or at least hope) that with the public challenge to keep them using Linux for a month, by forcing themselves to stick with it they'll get over the initial hump of difficulties everyone new to Linux encounters and get into the smooth sailing regions well before the time is up. I'm sure they'll probably try playing some AAA games that don't work or maybe some complicated streaming setup that fails or something, but on the whole I expect the overall experience to be pretty painless after the initial few days.

Quoting: F.UltraI just wish they would get out of their "nobody should ever have to use the terminal mindset. The terminal is perhaps the thing that I love the most about Linux...

Stephen Hawking said that, when he was writing A Brief History of Time, his publisher told him that for every equation he put in the book he would lose half his readership. He ended up including only a single equation, and the book became a phenomenal bestseller.

I suggest a corollary: every time you require use of the terminal, you lose half your potential user base. Let's face it, the majority of computer users are only barely comfortable handling a GUI in the first place. Requiring such people to use the terminal is like requiring people who are barely comfortable with arithmetic to solve non-linear partial differential equations. I absolutely agree that the terminal is one of the best parts of Linux, and people should be able to use it as much as they want; but I also believe that people having to use will probably see Linux's fraction of desktop usage never break a few percent. (This is where different distros come in; you can have a range of distros from "never need the terminal ever" to "doesn't have a window manager", and that's fine as people can self-sort according to their comfort level as long as there are beginner-friendly distros for them to start off with.) So I don't think that's an unreasonable point of view for a new-to-Linux user...

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A shame, but I suppose that's true about more time to work on Proton. I wasn't expecting mine until like June anyway, so what's another two months at this point?

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