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Croteam will have an interesting talk at GDC this year about game performance
16 Mar 2018 at 10:18 am UTC
16 Mar 2018 at 10:18 am UTC
Quoting: lucifertdarkSure , you are right. My message was entirely based on gaming.Quoting: LeopardThere are three kind of Linux users:Actually there's a fourth type of Linux user.
1-) Dual booting and keep buying Windows games , then hopes to jump Linux entirely when there is title parity
2-) Drm-free fanatics. They still didn't realize without Valve , there is no chance to grow. Without Steam on Linux , you probably wouldn't see so many indie titles on GOG too because devs wouldn't do a Linux version at all.
3-) Only Linux booters. Who only cares about growth of Linux gaming because they know if Linux gaming reaches to a certain point , there will be much more options on market. Even beneficial to Drm Free stores because there will be much more Linux games on there too.
4-) Dual booting but only buying games when & if a Linux port arrives.
The only reason I keep Windows around is for Lightroom as it sucks in Wine.
Croteam will have an interesting talk at GDC this year about game performance
16 Mar 2018 at 10:17 am UTC
16 Mar 2018 at 10:17 am UTC
Let me remind you John Carmack's Wine Linux proposal:
His company did ports of Linux versions of their games in an era which slightly less people was on Linux and internet game stores wasn't a thing at all. It failed their hopes about selling.
Then he said Wine is way to go for Linux and native ports are just a waste of time.
According to him ; Linux users will eventually ran game via Wine by tinkering it by commiting and applying hacks. Because they're much more technical people than Windows users. Also there are only technical people out there using Linux , so they don't have to provide native , easy , one click versions. They will bought it even it is only Windows anyway , so they will find a way run it.
Easy money.
Probably there will be some people who are furious about me but ; if they don't care about a Linux port then that means they're clearly saying " We don't need your money at all ".
Do the math beyond there.
His company did ports of Linux versions of their games in an era which slightly less people was on Linux and internet game stores wasn't a thing at all. It failed their hopes about selling.
Then he said Wine is way to go for Linux and native ports are just a waste of time.
According to him ; Linux users will eventually ran game via Wine by tinkering it by commiting and applying hacks. Because they're much more technical people than Windows users. Also there are only technical people out there using Linux , so they don't have to provide native , easy , one click versions. They will bought it even it is only Windows anyway , so they will find a way run it.
Easy money.
Probably there will be some people who are furious about me but ; if they don't care about a Linux port then that means they're clearly saying " We don't need your money at all ".
Do the math beyond there.
Croteam will have an interesting talk at GDC this year about game performance
16 Mar 2018 at 9:53 am UTC Likes: 5
They have their mouse icon ( ownership badge ) and asking for a Linux port. If you asking for a Linux port , why you purchased it at first place with knowing that game does not have Linux support.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/417290/discussions/0/352788917758965624/#c353915309340076815 [External Link]
Look at the reply of developer. Since it is a new game , there is not much people who owns game and asks for a port. Developer is not fully closed to Linux port but he is saying " We heard some ran it on Wine! "
So it is? How convincing for me to give you money until a patch broke it , nice.
16 Mar 2018 at 9:53 am UTC Likes: 5
Quoting: EikeWell , i got sick of seeing so many threads on Steam titled as : Linux port.Quoting: LeopardYou bought it and play it with Wine anyway , why should dev port it? Dev don't have to provide support for you , because you're running it on an unsupported system so it is not his/ her problem.I didn't think of that. It's not only as good - they're getting the money -, it's even better - they're getting the money without having to port plus they don't need to do support! So it's not only no incentive to port, it's actually an additional incentive not to port. (Still, everybody is free to do as he likes of course. For some, the alternative to using Linux and WINE for gaming might be to not use Linux for gaming at all...)
They have their mouse icon ( ownership badge ) and asking for a Linux port. If you asking for a Linux port , why you purchased it at first place with knowing that game does not have Linux support.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/417290/discussions/0/352788917758965624/#c353915309340076815 [External Link]
Look at the reply of developer. Since it is a new game , there is not much people who owns game and asks for a port. Developer is not fully closed to Linux port but he is saying " We heard some ran it on Wine! "
So it is? How convincing for me to give you money until a patch broke it , nice.
Croteam will have an interesting talk at GDC this year about game performance
16 Mar 2018 at 9:39 am UTC Likes: 2
You bought it and play it with Wine anyway , why should dev port it? Dev don't have to provide support for you , because you're running it on an unsupported system so it is not his/ her problem.
16 Mar 2018 at 9:39 am UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: GuestWell , with only one caveat. You keep feeding Windows gaming scene and make Linux native ports meaningless.Quoting: LeopardAnd then there is me who just boots Linux and plays whatever i can. If its native cool, if its new and i can play with WINE, well you better believe imma gonna buy it and play it :D . And then there are emulators, source ports and open engines. I will run whatever software i can make run on my PC.Quoting: GuestThere are relatively few real supporters of Linux gaming. I, too, want DRM-free games but if all Linux gamers would have a "Not DRM-free, No Bux" attitude, linux gaming will not grow.There are three kind of Linux users:
1-) Dual booting and keep buying Windows games , then hopes to jump Linux entirely when there is title parity
2-) Drm-free fanatics. They still didn't realize without Valve , there is no chance to grow. Without Steam on Linux , you probably wouldn't see so many indie titles on GOG too because devs wouldn't do a Linux version at all.
3-) Only Linux booters. Who only cares about growth of Linux gaming because they know if Linux gaming reaches to a certain point , there will be much more options on market. Even beneficial to Drm Free stores because there will be much more Linux games on there too.
You bought it and play it with Wine anyway , why should dev port it? Dev don't have to provide support for you , because you're running it on an unsupported system so it is not his/ her problem.
Croteam will have an interesting talk at GDC this year about game performance
16 Mar 2018 at 8:40 am UTC Likes: 10
1-) Dual booting and keep buying Windows games , then hopes to jump Linux entirely when there is title parity
2-) Drm-free fanatics. They still didn't realize without Valve , there is no chance to grow. Without Steam on Linux , you probably wouldn't see so many indie titles on GOG too because devs wouldn't do a Linux version at all.
3-) Only Linux booters. Who only cares about growth of Linux gaming because they know if Linux gaming reaches to a certain point , there will be much more options on market. Even beneficial to Drm Free stores because there will be much more Linux games on there too.
16 Mar 2018 at 8:40 am UTC Likes: 10
Quoting: GuestThere are relatively few real supporters of Linux gaming. I, too, want DRM-free games but if all Linux gamers would have a "Not DRM-free, No Bux" attitude, linux gaming will not grow.There are three kind of Linux users:
1-) Dual booting and keep buying Windows games , then hopes to jump Linux entirely when there is title parity
2-) Drm-free fanatics. They still didn't realize without Valve , there is no chance to grow. Without Steam on Linux , you probably wouldn't see so many indie titles on GOG too because devs wouldn't do a Linux version at all.
3-) Only Linux booters. Who only cares about growth of Linux gaming because they know if Linux gaming reaches to a certain point , there will be much more options on market. Even beneficial to Drm Free stores because there will be much more Linux games on there too.
Croteam will have an interesting talk at GDC this year about game performance
16 Mar 2018 at 7:12 am UTC Likes: 12
16 Mar 2018 at 7:12 am UTC Likes: 12
Quoting: throghEasy as that: They need to be supported and whole DRM-Free freakness should cast aside until Linux gaming grows to a certain point where we don't have to beg for ports.Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI support Croteam because they support Linux, but I hate their marriage with Valve.Easy as that: Stop supporting until they go full DRM-free. :)
Life is Strange: Before the Storm is officially coming to Linux, port from Feral Interactive
14 Mar 2018 at 12:04 pm UTC Likes: 6
14 Mar 2018 at 12:04 pm UTC Likes: 6
Quoting: Adamfx990I will actually buy it now :DWhy , for feeding Windows sales?
GOG are doing an early St. Patrick's Day Sale, a few Linux titles going cheap
12 Mar 2018 at 5:22 pm UTC
12 Mar 2018 at 5:22 pm UTC
Quoting: Alm888No , Feral's and VP's ported games are not on GOG store with Windows form at the first place. So there is nothing shady on there , Feral and VP can't override the policy of publisher / IP owner company.Quoting: HendrinMckayI believe he(sic) means it being advertised as coming to Steam Hardware as advertised on Steam's site way back, and then never being released for Linux.Ah! Now I got it. Well, as it have been said, that were Steam's (Valve's) and CDPR's problems. GOG has virtually nothing to do with that scam. Not that I am defending GOG, it has lots of problems: Galaxy ("In Progress"™, yeah!), support ("Use Ubuntu"™), missing Linux versions (this one, I suspect, is partially related to some Valve secret agreements with developers/porters, Feral™ in particular). But these are no excuses for outright bashing GOG for others' blunders.
Itch.io… It is good, but it does allow Steam-keys "releases" which makes it hardly any different than "IGN Bundle" Inc. Plus, it does not have regional pricing which is a huge con for me. :(
Kongregate have announced their own store and client 'Kartridge', will not support Linux
9 Mar 2018 at 11:05 am UTC Likes: 2
9 Mar 2018 at 11:05 am UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: ajgpOmg , you're right. I didn't notice that , lolQuoting: callciferIt will fail anyway: http://www.fortressofdoors.com/so-you-want-to-compete-with-steam/ [External Link]Nice read that.
Quoting: LeopardIsn't it normal?It's not even 2 supporting Linux on that list, the only support for Linux is Gridd (and its demo so doesnt count)
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?publisher=Kongregate [External Link]
14 out of 2 Linux support
BTW , i've never heard this company nor their games before this news
Kongregate have announced their own store and client 'Kartridge', will not support Linux
9 Mar 2018 at 10:24 am UTC
9 Mar 2018 at 10:24 am UTC
Quoting: rustybroomhandleMaybe. Like i said , i've never heard of them until nowQuoting: LeopardIsn't it normal?It's not a game publisher or game maker. It was originally a site for web games, mostly Flash. It's where devs like Edmund McMillen got their start. I think this new move is mainly because Flash is dead.
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?publisher=Kongregate [External Link]
14 out of 2 Linux support
BTW , i've never heard this company nor their games before this news