well yeah i understand that. but u wont enjoy much of the games like RAGE and Unigine(Oilrush) games..well i mean they might be making it to work on them, but it will be the lowest possible settings etc.
its really not a gaming..but i agree those drivers should be supported if they can.. alltho i dont want to think about the pain of playing games on those gpus.
having tested few games on windows with intels GMA X4500 and 3500 - framerate is really unacceptable..while they do support shader model 4.0 even..and games start up at least on windows part. but performance is just terrible.
yes..games with not much of gpu demand can work well enaugh.

its ur call tho. i dont think every game should support/work on those cards..most games have those cards listed as "not supported" in the readme file or sometimes just "not officially supported".
if you are a gamer then you probably have some decent dedicated nvidia or ati card anyway. if you are a into cardgames or other small games then you can live with integrated low-end gpu's as well.

just my thoughts:)

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Quoting: "whizse, post: 4600, member: 126"Then you are quite mistaken, I play everything with free drivers, and it works very well indeed.

May I also remind you of a little company called Intel, the biggest GPU manufacturer in the world and a very popular choice among Linux users? Yes, their official driver is a Mesa driver.

i know that all..but those GPU's are not for gaming mostly anyway..yes some lightweight games for sure..
thats so even on windows..u dont get much out of those GPU's.
popular ofc, since its cheaper to buy a pc/laptop without dedicated card. but u get more like office pc then. not a gaming machine.

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sry but mesa drivers..seriously?
those are not for gaming anyway atm. ancient opengl support without s3tc and all pretty bad performance.
yes in some cases and with some older games they work and ati opensource drivers are pretty decent lately..but still far behind from prop.
thats my 2 cents.
dont wanna start flamewar now tho.

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and its done
$625,143
pretty much lastminute pledgers :)

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they will port it anyway
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stainlessgames/carmageddon-reincarnation/posts/241390 [External Link]

pledged instantly after i saw that update :)

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http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/stainlessgames/carmageddon-reincarnation/ [External Link] - not looking so good atm

i have high hopes into this project.
carmageddon was my childhood favourite(my parents didnt see what i was playing damn :))

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the bundle was (supposed) to be about?
i think it doesnt go against that.
if it works crossplatform (no matter if wine is used or not) then its "crossplatform".
wine is a good thing. it allows us to play the games that are never ported on our platform. it also runs some older games much better than u can run them in latest windows releases.
i do not own windows but i do buy windows games that work well in wine. Just the gamer inside me wants to do that.

ofc native ports are better. but i use all i can to enrich my gaming.

i personally have nothing agains winelib ports if they do work. and in my case, LIMBO works just perfectly with zero issues.

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i had no problems running it in wine when i used to play.
now with the bundle version (crossover ported one)..that works well also.
yeah..native version would be better but no problem with the winelib one for me at least.

only problem is that the damn game doesnt have windowed mode. so its better to play windows version in wine to emulate wine window to be able to play in windowed mode:)

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its time to preorder now as well :)
have been keeping my eye on it since the beginning of the development videos on youtube

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seems like Carmageddon: Reincarnation might come to Linux as well.
but the bar is pretty high for the port. namely 600k
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stainlessgames/carmageddon-reincarnation/posts/233561 [External Link]

prolly wont reach to that point. but u never know..would be fun to play it on linux.
i remember good old carma 1 and 2 days:)...tdr wasnt so great tho.

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