Quoting: Luke_NukemI don't know what your point is then. You say they gave nothing back - except they did.

Like Talon1024 said, they gave nothing that is useful back if you want to do anything than improve the content on their version. Your point is therefore no point at all.

If you consider that being open source, then you'd have to call Quake 2 an open source game from (almost) the original release point onward since it had modding support in the original release. Quake 1 used game code run in a VM and Quake 2 used native game code, so to make mods you have to release some of the original code.

Other examples are Kingpin (a Quake 2 engine game) – I've seen countless false claims that the game has been open sourced.

The other thing that is curiously missing is the source release of System Shock 2 that Stephen Kick promised years ago (e.g on what used to be called Twitter). And the Linux version of Turok 2 on GOG. And (probably) other promised Linux stuff I currently can't remember.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismIf I was a publisher, my respect for EG would have just dropped -- nobody can stay in business working for free.

Fortnite and Tencent can provide a lot of money. And EG saves a lot of money by relying on Steam for features – like Epic exclusive games with a Forum on Steam.

And it's not really completely free. It's a loss leader.

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Quoting: Luke_NukemThat's not true. They pushed to put all the new Quake 2 game sources under GPL to ensure that other engines can use it, and wrote extensive docs.

No. That is nothing. It's what they need so that mods can be ported over to get any content, so they had no choice.

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Quoting: kuhpunktHow is it competition? Who benefits from it?

It's the same kind of competition like the enforced split in football TV rights in Germany. Everything is more expansive than before and you still have no choice.

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Quoting: Blender-sama30€ is just 10€ more than a Diablo 4 skin. 😂

Really?

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Oh wow. More good news… today keeps on giving.

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Even their logo is damaged. Just look at those poor letters being abused to stand for that garbage and then the broken E and N and whatever happened to that V and the kerning of the VO pair.

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Quoting: subThough, he doesn't complain and sees other benefits.

Yes. It's baffling. I've worked for them for free and got one hint about a bug. I'm so happy…

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Quoting: benstor214Same goes to 4K-UltraHD textures that get pushed to your 800p handheld device (Steam Deck anyone?) for no reason.

Or music in wav format. Even emulator packages sold on Steam (e.g. Disney Afternoon Collection) has that crap.

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Quoting: KohriasAfter half a year they lift the block now. While I am happy to see this I have a hard time to be grateful.

Be careful. We'll get other news sites publishing stories how Linux users are so ungrateful that they aren't celebrating that a company stops punishing them. :grin:

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